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  • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

    “The internet you grew up on isn't dying.
    A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.”

    And it’s not a bad thing.

    EDIT: mad props to @tg for writing one of the best things I’ve read in ages. We remember the old ways!

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    Terry Godier (terrygodier.com)

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    @tg the SomaFM reference reminds me of youarelistening.to/losangeles which I discovered shortly after SomaFM in the early 00s

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    • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

      @tg the SomaFM reference reminds me of youarelistening.to/losangeles which I discovered shortly after SomaFM in the early 00s

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      @darkuncle absolutely! I still use Internet radio today

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      • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

        @darkuncle absolutely! I still use Internet radio today

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        @tg I wonder if we can get to a renaissance where we rediscover the boring Internet and also still interact with it through phones that are not a headache to operate. Are smartphones fundamentally incompatible with the Internet as we interacted with it in the 90s?

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        • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

          @tg I wonder if we can get to a renaissance where we rediscover the boring Internet and also still interact with it through phones that are not a headache to operate. Are smartphones fundamentally incompatible with the Internet as we interacted with it in the 90s?

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          @darkuncle it’s happening all around us. I think phones when viewed as a personal pocket computer makes this feel very possible

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          • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

            “The internet you grew up on isn't dying.
            A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.”

            And it’s not a bad thing.

            EDIT: mad props to @tg for writing one of the best things I’ve read in ages. We remember the old ways!

            Link Preview Image
            The Boring Internet

            The internet you grew up on isn't dying. A commercial veneer glued on top of it is. A visual essay about the protocols, federations, and quiet machinery underneath everything you actually use.

            favicon

            Terry Godier (terrygodier.com)

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            @darkuncle @tg we should set up a Finger server on our domain

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            • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

              @darkuncle it’s happening all around us. I think phones when viewed as a personal pocket computer makes this feel very possible

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              @tg maybe we need a new way to envision how we interact with our phones and what we use them for. I remember 20+ years ago having a Treo 650 with an SSH client on it and I thought it was the most amazing thing ever. Blink for iOS today gives me those kinds of vibes.

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                @darkuncle @tg we should set up a Finger server on our domain

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                @ireneista @tg I used to run one on my OpenBSD servers, but then I quit using it and so did everybody else except for the people that had local accounts

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                • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

                  “The internet you grew up on isn't dying.
                  A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.”

                  And it’s not a bad thing.

                  EDIT: mad props to @tg for writing one of the best things I’ve read in ages. We remember the old ways!

                  Link Preview Image
                  The Boring Internet

                  The internet you grew up on isn't dying. A commercial veneer glued on top of it is. A visual essay about the protocols, federations, and quiet machinery underneath everything you actually use.

                  favicon

                  Terry Godier (terrygodier.com)

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                  The idea that I could just go and build stuff like it’s 1999 again and I am in my early Unix admin days again kind of blows my mind a little bit but also seems completely obvious — like, of course you can go build it like you always did; when did that ever stop being possible?

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                  • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

                    @ireneista @tg I used to run one on my OpenBSD servers, but then I quit using it and so did everybody else except for the people that had local accounts

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                    @darkuncle @tg yes. we remember checking John Carmack's planfile as kids, because we had questionable taste in role models, and also using it amongst our classmates, but we haven't done anything with it since then.

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                    • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

                      And big thanks to @mayintoronto for boosting @stairjoke OP so I found this to begin with. Love me some fedi. ❤

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                      @darkuncle @stairjoke such a great piece of writing!

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                      • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                        @darkuncle @stairjoke such a great piece of writing!

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                        @mayintoronto @stairjoke I am inspired to go run some stuff out of my house again. Thanks @tg

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                        • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

                          The idea that I could just go and build stuff like it’s 1999 again and I am in my early Unix admin days again kind of blows my mind a little bit but also seems completely obvious — like, of course you can go build it like you always did; when did that ever stop being possible?

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                          @darkuncle

                          the trend that everything has to scale to insane degree and that you can't just build a tool you need has not been to our benefit, nor to the benefit of the internet.

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                          • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                            @darkuncle

                            the trend that everything has to scale to insane degree and that you can't just build a tool you need has not been to our benefit, nor to the benefit of the internet.

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                            @paul_ipv6 many-to-many not many-to-one

                            We really lost sight of the fundamental principle of the Internet over the last 20 years: decentralization

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                              @rl_dane @ireneista @tg not on OpenBSD it doesn’t 😉

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                              • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

                                @mayintoronto @stairjoke I am inspired to go run some stuff out of my house again. Thanks @tg

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                                @darkuncle @stairjoke @tg I'm tempted to put nothing but the finger thing on my website, and I have no idea how you'd do that at all.

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                                • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                                  @darkuncle @stairjoke @tg I'm tempted to put nothing but the finger thing on my website, and I have no idea how you'd do that at all.

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                                  @mayintoronto @stairjoke @tg you would need to be running some kind of a UNIX variant (a BSD or Linux, but I’d recommend OpenBSD for safety) and then you just turn it on! (And DNS, and a local user account, and port forwarding on your router … maybe I should just do a little write up on how to build it from scratch for people who haven’t done it before?)

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                                  • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

                                    The idea that I could just go and build stuff like it’s 1999 again and I am in my early Unix admin days again kind of blows my mind a little bit but also seems completely obvious — like, of course you can go build it like you always did; when did that ever stop being possible?

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                                    @darkuncle the problem has never been that it can't be built; it's that it would never be seen, and never be heard.

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