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  3. I heard a reporter from Axios interviewed on NPR the other day (Marketplace Tech, I think) talking about how the tech companies are putting out new models every 6 months to 1 year and how each model is more "powerful" than the previous.

I heard a reporter from Axios interviewed on NPR the other day (Marketplace Tech, I think) talking about how the tech companies are putting out new models every 6 months to 1 year and how each model is more "powerful" than the previous.

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  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

    I heard a reporter from Axios interviewed on NPR the other day (Marketplace Tech, I think) talking about how the tech companies are putting out new models every 6 months to 1 year and how each model is more "powerful" than the previous.

    This got me thinking about what it means when we describe technology and this technology in particular as "powerful".

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    @emilymbender Marketplace Tech segments have been enthusiastically promoting AI for over two years. I don't recall anything approaching a tough question for any guests or unbiased journalism.

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    • fuzzy@beige.partyF fuzzy@beige.party

      @emilymbender I don't believe that there should be a single word, but which one word would you use (instead of "powerful")?

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      @fuzzy Which property of the models are you trying to label? .My thread was about how that word is being used with insidious ambiguity.

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      • joe@beige.partyJ joe@beige.party

        @emilymbender not to argue - but Google I think is showing in some ways power in how some of its proof of concept tools do planning and action sequences. Generating text is the first iteration, then the chat response model/training, and the combination of tool use and planning seems to be a leap forward. Claude code, open claw and others are versions of AutoGPT - just kind of ripping off agile workflows for execution. I would say when the model can “consider” what to do, then execute using external tools - that’s a version of power. It’s the aspect that should excite and worry us. It does it with confidence, and not poorly in some limited cases.

        These kinds of tools tend to amaze me. They are a step beyond. I think as they train on more tokens they are just seeing a side effect of things like this working better, being able to read documents and file tax forms. Agreed to be very skeptical because it’s marketing hype and Claude has clogged the internet with paid astroturfing. It’s disgusting.

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        @joe @emilymbender bro, you need to slow tf down, and learn a bit more about whom you're correcting. Tuck your ego back in your pants, and don't try to "not to argue" argue your talking points.

        Knock it off.

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        • fartnuggets@jorts.horseF fartnuggets@jorts.horse

          @joe @emilymbender bro, you need to slow tf down, and learn a bit more about whom you're correcting. Tuck your ego back in your pants, and don't try to "not to argue" argue your talking points.

          Knock it off.

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          @fartnuggets @emilymbender lol I knew it, you can’t discuss anything on social media. Gender is more important. Thanks for putting me in my place.

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            @fartnuggets @emilymbender lol I knew it, you can’t discuss anything on social media. Gender is more important. Thanks for putting me in my place.

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            @fartnuggets @emilymbender literally didn’t “correct” anyone. This is peak social media. Love when men attack men for existing in spaces.

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            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

              @joe "Not to argue but" ... argue argue argue google PR argue argue

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              @emilymbender you’re right, being objective is silly.

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              • joe@beige.partyJ joe@beige.party

                @emilymbender you’re right, being objective is silly.

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                @emilymbender you used the word evidence… it’s wild. Sorry I forgot I was wrong anyways. I can’t possibly be right.

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                • joe@beige.partyJ joe@beige.party

                  @fartnuggets @emilymbender lol I knew it, you can’t discuss anything on social media. Gender is more important. Thanks for putting me in my place.

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                  @joe @emilymbender Not to argue, but thinking before you open your mouth is a good idea. Correcting an expert with a profound expertise, based on a misread of their posts, however, is not.

                  Gender only comes into it because men do this all the fucking time.

                  You'd be just as much of an ignorant moron correcting a man, and you'd fail to learn anything just the same. It's just got that special sprinkle of privilege on top when you do it to Dr Bender

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                  • joe@beige.partyJ joe@beige.party

                    @fartnuggets @emilymbender literally didn’t “correct” anyone. This is peak social media. Love when men attack men for existing in spaces.

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                    @fartnuggets @emilymbender I was said to giving PR. I think I’m supposed to be mansplaining. Just tell me to kill my self. This is what social media is about - making each other feel bad.

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                    • fartnuggets@jorts.horseF fartnuggets@jorts.horse

                      @joe @emilymbender Not to argue, but thinking before you open your mouth is a good idea. Correcting an expert with a profound expertise, based on a misread of their posts, however, is not.

                      Gender only comes into it because men do this all the fucking time.

                      You'd be just as much of an ignorant moron correcting a man, and you'd fail to learn anything just the same. It's just got that special sprinkle of privilege on top when you do it to Dr Bender

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                      @fartnuggets @emilymbender I am sorry please give me more orders

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                      • joe@beige.partyJ joe@beige.party

                        @fartnuggets @emilymbender lol I knew it, you can’t discuss anything on social media. Gender is more important. Thanks for putting me in my place.

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                        @joe @emilymbender it's also fascinating that you're the one bringing gender into it. Bravo, you've somehow embodied the stereotype even more profoundly.

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                        • joe@beige.partyJ joe@beige.party

                          @fartnuggets @emilymbender I am sorry please give me more orders

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                          @fartnuggets @emilymbender I didn’t correct her. I tried to talk to someone on social media. This is insanity.

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                            @fartnuggets @emilymbender I didn’t correct her. I tried to talk to someone on social media. This is insanity.

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                            @fartnuggets @emilymbender forgot this was about posting hot takes and personal attacks. Carry on. You’re saying that AI is bad I think?

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                            • joe@beige.partyJ joe@beige.party

                              @fartnuggets @emilymbender literally didn’t “correct” anyone. This is peak social media. Love when men attack men for existing in spaces.

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                              @joe @fartnuggets @emilymbender

                              The MRA test: If it looks like a MRA, swims like a MRA, and quacks like a MRA, then it probably is a MRA.

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