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  3. I have just started the second year of my two year term on the F-Droid board.

I have just started the second year of my two year term on the F-Droid board.

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  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

    I must admit that, thanks to Google, I am not massively optimistic about the future of Android and Free software.

    I'm also spending some of my volunteering time on non-Android mobile Linux projects, because I think that they are increasingly important and necessary.

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    I've ordered a Jolla phone. Not sure about privacy with Sailfish OS but I'll find out when my phone arrives. 5G phone 50 Mpixel camera. Uses zypper to update the phone.

    @neil

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    • richardibbo@fosstodon.orgR richardibbo@fosstodon.org

      I've ordered a Jolla phone. Not sure about privacy with Sailfish OS but I'll find out when my phone arrives. 5G phone 50 Mpixel camera. Uses zypper to update the phone.

      @neil

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      @richardibbo I hope that you get on with Sailfish better than I did!

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        @richardibbo I hope that you get on with Sailfish better than I did!

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        I'm used to OpenSuse and Tumbleweed. Should be easy for me to understand 🙂

        @neil

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          I must admit that, thanks to Google, I am not massively optimistic about the future of Android and Free software.

          I'm also spending some of my volunteering time on non-Android mobile Linux projects, because I think that they are increasingly important and necessary.

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          @neil F-Droid is great, thanks for doing this! I hope it doesn't end up getting completely clobbered by whatever happens in September.

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            I must admit that, thanks to Google, I am not massively optimistic about the future of Android and Free software.

            I'm also spending some of my volunteering time on non-Android mobile Linux projects, because I think that they are increasingly important and necessary.

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            @neil Yeah, just yesterday I was telling my wife that we'd most surely be running Linux on our PCs in 2035, but Android on our mobiles... not so sure.

            Hopefully we'll run a FOSS Linux distro too (and sooner) but I'll be grateful to you and the communities anyway. I didn't know you were in the F-Droid board, amazing work! 🥰

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            • richardibbo@fosstodon.orgR richardibbo@fosstodon.org

              I'm used to OpenSuse and Tumbleweed. Should be easy for me to understand 🙂

              @neil

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              @richardibbo Ha!

              Of all the mobile Linux environments that I have used, I struggled the most with Sailfish, but I genuinely hope that it turns out well!

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                I must admit that, thanks to Google, I am not massively optimistic about the future of Android and Free software.

                I'm also spending some of my volunteering time on non-Android mobile Linux projects, because I think that they are increasingly important and necessary.

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                @neil

                I keep hoping for a reliable, moderately priced Linux-based phone coming out every time I have to start phone shopping.

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  I must admit that, thanks to Google, I am not massively optimistic about the future of Android and Free software.

                  I'm also spending some of my volunteering time on non-Android mobile Linux projects, because I think that they are increasingly important and necessary.

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                  If I had to put my money on something other than GrapheneOS, it would probably be postmarketOS.

                  But I was pretty impressed with Ubuntu Touch when I tried it again recently after a few years.

                  I've also wondered about a better separation of connected and non-connected mobile devices, and whether that would be worth exploring.

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                  • kbm0@mastodon.socialK kbm0@mastodon.social

                    @neil F-Droid is great, thanks for doing this! I hope it doesn't end up getting completely clobbered by whatever happens in September.

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                    @kbm0 Let's hope...

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                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                      If I had to put my money on something other than GrapheneOS, it would probably be postmarketOS.

                      But I was pretty impressed with Ubuntu Touch when I tried it again recently after a few years.

                      I've also wondered about a better separation of connected and non-connected mobile devices, and whether that would be worth exploring.

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                      @neil I'm very interested in offline or only occasionally file sharing devices. After my last eink phone had malware problems, I don't want to let less than grapheneos on the net for mobile personally, but eink is so good for me... slowly exploring how much personal use I can shunt over to offline boox eink devices.

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        I have just started the second year of my two year term on the F-Droid board.

                        One of my goals for my first year was to improve the board's diversity, and I am pretty darned happy with how that is turning out.

                        I have also helped drive forward some important policy-related stuff.

                        Let's see what this year brings.

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                        @Neil Brown Thank you! F-droid is doing really important work!
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                        • d_rift@beige.partyD d_rift@beige.party

                          @neil I'm very interested in offline or only occasionally file sharing devices. After my last eink phone had malware problems, I don't want to let less than grapheneos on the net for mobile personally, but eink is so good for me... slowly exploring how much personal use I can shunt over to offline boox eink devices.

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                          @d_rift @neil

                          You can use #GrapheneOS for that. It completely isolates components through IOMMUs (and others), meaning that if you disable mobile connectivity, WIFi, BT or enable the airplane mode, the hardware is actually off.

                          Currently there is no device with an e-ink display that is supported by GrapheneOS. That is not due to development capabilities of the project, but solely due to unavailable hardware that meets the requirements. Can't build a proper and safe home on quicksand, just as you can't build a secure OS on insecure hardware.

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                            @d_rift @neil

                            You can use #GrapheneOS for that. It completely isolates components through IOMMUs (and others), meaning that if you disable mobile connectivity, WIFi, BT or enable the airplane mode, the hardware is actually off.

                            Currently there is no device with an e-ink display that is supported by GrapheneOS. That is not due to development capabilities of the project, but solely due to unavailable hardware that meets the requirements. Can't build a proper and safe home on quicksand, just as you can't build a secure OS on insecure hardware.

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                            @h3artbl33d @neil yes, exactly. Which is why I loudly say someone needs to make a compatible device almost any time I get an opportunity. Because I've read IEEE 1789 and have no desire to keep putting refresh rates in my eyeballs and yet. But just this once, instead of that rant, I was aiming for offline mode and data sideload support in foss apps rants. 🙃

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                            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                              If I had to put my money on something other than GrapheneOS, it would probably be postmarketOS.

                              But I was pretty impressed with Ubuntu Touch when I tried it again recently after a few years.

                              I've also wondered about a better separation of connected and non-connected mobile devices, and whether that would be worth exploring.

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                              @neil By “connected and non-connected” do you mean something like wandering around with a stock Android or iOS device, or even a smart-enough “feature phone“ in your pocket but doing everything which needs any privacy at all through a Linux device tethered to it?

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                              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                If I had to put my money on something other than GrapheneOS, it would probably be postmarketOS.

                                But I was pretty impressed with Ubuntu Touch when I tried it again recently after a few years.

                                I've also wondered about a better separation of connected and non-connected mobile devices, and whether that would be worth exploring.

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                                @neil pmOS is great but no support for new phones.

                                FuriOS and their phones look cool. You seen those?

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                                • edavies@functional.cafeE edavies@functional.cafe

                                  @neil By “connected and non-connected” do you mean something like wandering around with a stock Android or iOS device, or even a smart-enough “feature phone“ in your pocket but doing everything which needs any privacy at all through a Linux device tethered to it?

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                                  @edavies Or a cellular modem / Mi-Fi. But yes, that kind of thing.

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                                  • tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.one

                                    @neil pmOS is great but no support for new phones.

                                    FuriOS and their phones look cool. You seen those?

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                                    @tootbrute

                                    > pmOS is great but no support for new phones.

                                    Yes, which doesn't worry me massively, as nothing I do really demands a cutting edge phone.

                                    > FuriOS

                                    No, not tried one.

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