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  3. It's really freaky how armies depend on having a lot of really, really young & impressionable soldiers.

It's really freaky how armies depend on having a lot of really, really young & impressionable soldiers.

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  • artemis@dice.campA This user is from outside of this forum
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    It's really freaky how armies depend on having a lot of really, really young & impressionable soldiers.

    They need these 18, 19, 20 year olds. They need easily frightened people who have not yet gotten practice making decisions about their own lives.

    And boy, oh boy, are many soldiers easily frightened. It's a big part of what makes them so dangerous. They have to be frightened so that they can only think about killing to survive.

    artemis@dice.campA burnitdown@beige.partyB benjamineskola@hachyderm.ioB mxchara@seattle.pinkM guitarsith@fosstodon.orgG 6 Replies Last reply
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    • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

      It's really freaky how armies depend on having a lot of really, really young & impressionable soldiers.

      They need these 18, 19, 20 year olds. They need easily frightened people who have not yet gotten practice making decisions about their own lives.

      And boy, oh boy, are many soldiers easily frightened. It's a big part of what makes them so dangerous. They have to be frightened so that they can only think about killing to survive.

      artemis@dice.campA This user is from outside of this forum
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      You'd think they'd be looking for "courage" in their soldiers, but actually it's easier to get frightened people to do atrocities for you.

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      • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

        You'd think they'd be looking for "courage" in their soldiers, but actually it's easier to get frightened people to do atrocities for you.

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        They first take care to make sure the soldiers are fucking *terrified* of everything & everyone, & THEN they send them out.

        Certainly seems to be how the Iraq war worked.

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        • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

          You'd think they'd be looking for "courage" in their soldiers, but actually it's easier to get frightened people to do atrocities for you.

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          @artemis They're also less likely to question illegal orders.

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          • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

            They first take care to make sure the soldiers are fucking *terrified* of everything & everyone, & THEN they send them out.

            Certainly seems to be how the Iraq war worked.

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            "Ok, so we're going to teach you to be absolutely petrified of these people whose language you do not speak & whose culture you don't understand & then we're going to send you out in very small groups to go house to house looking for nothing very specific. I'm sure you won't do any murders. Just don't forget that everyone wants to kill you, so you should kill them first."

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            • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

              "Ok, so we're going to teach you to be absolutely petrified of these people whose language you do not speak & whose culture you don't understand & then we're going to send you out in very small groups to go house to house looking for nothing very specific. I'm sure you won't do any murders. Just don't forget that everyone wants to kill you, so you should kill them first."

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              Living in terror is not good for the individual soldier, not at all, but it may work out great for the people who are running the war if all their soldiers are fucking terrified.

              That's one of the ways you can get them to do atrocities without even having to give the order yourself. Make them fucking terrified & filled with anger, then send them out with weapons drawn & let things just play out.

              A scared person with a gun is the most dangerous person you'll ever meet.

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              • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                It's really freaky how armies depend on having a lot of really, really young & impressionable soldiers.

                They need these 18, 19, 20 year olds. They need easily frightened people who have not yet gotten practice making decisions about their own lives.

                And boy, oh boy, are many soldiers easily frightened. It's a big part of what makes them so dangerous. They have to be frightened so that they can only think about killing to survive.

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                @artemis fascists like impressionable youth. it's harder to convince people who know better.

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                • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                  Living in terror is not good for the individual soldier, not at all, but it may work out great for the people who are running the war if all their soldiers are fucking terrified.

                  That's one of the ways you can get them to do atrocities without even having to give the order yourself. Make them fucking terrified & filled with anger, then send them out with weapons drawn & let things just play out.

                  A scared person with a gun is the most dangerous person you'll ever meet.

                  sallyfieldlight@zeroes.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @artemis and when they come back disabled, disregard them just as you do all disabled bodies. Pretty much the government's MO.

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                  • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                    Living in terror is not good for the individual soldier, not at all, but it may work out great for the people who are running the war if all their soldiers are fucking terrified.

                    That's one of the ways you can get them to do atrocities without even having to give the order yourself. Make them fucking terrified & filled with anger, then send them out with weapons drawn & let things just play out.

                    A scared person with a gun is the most dangerous person you'll ever meet.

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                    adusum@mastodon.social
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                    @artemis
                    Wait - are we still talking about soldiers or the old bill?
                    @vfrmedia

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                      @artemis and when they come back disabled, disregard them just as you do all disabled bodies. Pretty much the government's MO.

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                      @SallyFieldlight
                      For those that come back in body bags - there's just a thank you for your service PR event.
                      They don't care about active duty or veteran lives.

                      @artemis

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                        @artemis
                        Wait - are we still talking about soldiers or the old bill?
                        @vfrmedia

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                        @adusum @artemis could equally be both (or gendarmerie in countries which have one).

                        Although in UK the youngest armed Police officer is going to be in mid 20s or older due to the training requirements, here its more likely to be excessive force used by public order units ("riot squad") when they have younger, scared officers.

                        Also seem two occasions where Roads Policing Unit officers have made sketchy manoeuvres on a busy roundabout putting themselves in a vulnerable position and others in potential danger, which seems to be sparked by a mix of fear and insufficient numbers/backup..

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                          @SallyFieldlight
                          For those that come back in body bags - there's just a thank you for your service PR event.
                          They don't care about active duty or veteran lives.

                          @artemis

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                          @PhoenixSerenity @artemis if you're dead, you're worthy of praise. Come back sick/disabled...a burden.

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                          • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                            @adusum @artemis could equally be both (or gendarmerie in countries which have one).

                            Although in UK the youngest armed Police officer is going to be in mid 20s or older due to the training requirements, here its more likely to be excessive force used by public order units ("riot squad") when they have younger, scared officers.

                            Also seem two occasions where Roads Policing Unit officers have made sketchy manoeuvres on a busy roundabout putting themselves in a vulnerable position and others in potential danger, which seems to be sparked by a mix of fear and insufficient numbers/backup..

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                            @vfrmedia
                            The thing is, people self-select for a job having power over other people.

                            @artemis

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                              @vfrmedia
                              The thing is, people self-select for a job having power over other people.

                              @artemis

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                              @adusum

                              that is true in most "Western" nations with volunteer armies and police forces (don't forget though that some countries still have conscription, until recently even in some EU nations a lot of gendarmes were conscripts - although by 90s/00s there was *supposed* to be non-military options for everyone, some countries made that option harder by making you do extra year service or it paid less)

                              @artemis

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                                @adusum

                                that is true in most "Western" nations with volunteer armies and police forces (don't forget though that some countries still have conscription, until recently even in some EU nations a lot of gendarmes were conscripts - although by 90s/00s there was *supposed* to be non-military options for everyone, some countries made that option harder by making you do extra year service or it paid less)

                                @artemis

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                                @vfrmedia
                                > in some EU nations a lot of gendarmes were conscripts

                                That is how I think it should be.
                                Although, there would still be career vets training them I suppose..

                                @artemis

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                                • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                                  "Ok, so we're going to teach you to be absolutely petrified of these people whose language you do not speak & whose culture you don't understand & then we're going to send you out in very small groups to go house to house looking for nothing very specific. I'm sure you won't do any murders. Just don't forget that everyone wants to kill you, so you should kill them first."

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                                  @artemis I know you know this, but for a moment I got distracted and returned to reading this toot flickered through the thought you were talking about the police, because where I live a lot of neighborhoods don't speak English first. Same shit, often same scared boys, different borders.

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                                  • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                                    Living in terror is not good for the individual soldier, not at all, but it may work out great for the people who are running the war if all their soldiers are fucking terrified.

                                    That's one of the ways you can get them to do atrocities without even having to give the order yourself. Make them fucking terrified & filled with anger, then send them out with weapons drawn & let things just play out.

                                    A scared person with a gun is the most dangerous person you'll ever meet.

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                                    @artemis Can I quote you on that?

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                                    • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                                      @artemis Can I quote you on that?

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                                      @drwho
                                      Absolutely.

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                                      • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                                        @drwho
                                        Absolutely.

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                                        @artemis Thank you kindly.

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                                        • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                                          It's really freaky how armies depend on having a lot of really, really young & impressionable soldiers.

                                          They need these 18, 19, 20 year olds. They need easily frightened people who have not yet gotten practice making decisions about their own lives.

                                          And boy, oh boy, are many soldiers easily frightened. It's a big part of what makes them so dangerous. They have to be frightened so that they can only think about killing to survive.

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                                          @artemis The UK allows 16-year-olds to join. Bleak.

                                          (In fact applications are allowed from 15-year-olds, presumably ready to join as soon as they turn 16.)

                                          And they market it even younger. "If you're not old enough to join, you can still get involved."

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