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  • alpuzz@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #77

    @arfy @briankrebs My thought exactly. That would constitute pretty much all routers on the market from what I understand.

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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

      "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

      WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

      "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

      "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

      "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

      Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

      https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

      FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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      #78

      @briankrebs So no new, not previously approved, consumer grade routers are allowed, but all currently approved models are still ok to import and use? No WiFi 8 for us!

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      • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

        @briankrebs 1) "If you've already bought it, it's fine." They realize how they'd cripple the entire US internet if they didn't include this, but at the same time, by doing so, they admit that this really isn't a problem at all, it's a trade control measure, like tariffs.

        2) "Conditional Approval". There's the "pay me, and I'll let you sell your stuff" angle.

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        @ZenHeathen @briankrebs i worry a lot about that four port router I have in the office. Hope this doesn't include the TP-Link home-AV + two ethernet porte adapter or my ASUS wifi.

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        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

          Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

          "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

          WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

          "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

          "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

          "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

          Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

          https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

          FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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          #80

          @briankrebs So US consumers will be forced to have routers which are NSA approved as providing full data and streams to authorities to check if you're saying anything they don't like.

          Good reason for having a more trusted router and VPN so all the NSA approved router can eavesdrop is a securely encrypted VPN tunnel

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          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

            Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

            "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

            WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

            "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

            "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

            "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

            Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

            https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

            FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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            #81

            @briankrebs
            Does anyone have a conglomerate-to-consumer-brand translation of those companies?

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            • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

              @glynd@mastodon.world @briankrebs@infosec.exchange unless you're spending a few $1000s, there isn't (US made) "business-grade".

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              #82

              @ferricoxide @briankrebs @glynd they dont have to use your criteria for what is "consumer-grade", i imagine with a small bribe that the router you rent from your ISP is exempt, and that Spectrum and Comcast would be all onboard.

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              • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

                @briankrebs 1) "If you've already bought it, it's fine." They realize how they'd cripple the entire US internet if they didn't include this, but at the same time, by doing so, they admit that this really isn't a problem at all, it's a trade control measure, like tariffs.

                2) "Conditional Approval". There's the "pay me, and I'll let you sell your stuff" angle.

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                @ZenHeathen Can’t wait to see how they walk back those security concerns when the foreign firms submit their bribes.

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                • fraca7@social.linux.pizzaF fraca7@social.linux.pizza

                  @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs Looks like one of those — sorry no alt text since your own post is basically it

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                  @fraca7 @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs the diagrams are missing the "AI" agent running behind the firewalls that's exfiltrating all your IP to train Russian, Chinese, Israeli, and Former American security "AI"s.

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                  • fraca7@social.linux.pizzaF fraca7@social.linux.pizza

                    @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs Looks like one of those — sorry no alt text since your own post is basically it

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                    @fraca7 @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs If I remember correctly, the original image had an additional firewall with the description „just for good measure“.

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                    • cawguy@thecanadian.socialC cawguy@thecanadian.social

                      @ZenHeathen Can’t wait to see how they walk back those security concerns when the foreign firms submit their bribes.

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                      @CAWguy It's clearly intended. It's practically spelled out already.

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                      • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @rpardee @briankrebs

                        New Trump Eagle lucky #22 freedom router!
                        Only $999.99!

                        (With improvement Chinglish instructions of installing.)

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                        @SeanPLynch for some reason its only capable of 45Mbit though...

                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @rpardee @briankrebs

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                        • timo21@mastodon.sdf.orgT timo21@mastodon.sdf.org

                          @briankrebs wow. I still have my last three routers in my closet of old technology. Who cares about speed if they are uncomprimised. I probably don't have have my last dial-up though. Dialup and shortwave may be useful in the future though.

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                          @timo21 @briankrebs POTS is gone and would require all that old infrastructure to work. Think #915MHz https://meshtastic.org/

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                          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                            Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                            "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                            WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                            "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                            "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                            "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                            Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                            https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                            FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                            @briankrebs It's almost as if they don't know that a "router" is just a computer running routing software. Any PC is a "router" if it's running OPNSense, Mikrotik RouterOS or something like that.

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                            • fraca7@social.linux.pizzaF fraca7@social.linux.pizza

                              @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs Looks like one of those — sorry no alt text since your own post is basically it

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                              @fraca7 Or this one?

                              @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs

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                              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                                "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                                WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                                "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                                "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                                "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                                Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                                https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                                FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                                @briankrebs What a bunch of fucking idiots.

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                                • piepants@famichiki.jpP piepants@famichiki.jp

                                  @fraca7 Or this one?

                                  @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs

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                                  @piepants @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs Perfection

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                                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                    Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                                    "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                                    WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                                    "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                                    "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                                    "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                                    Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                                    https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                                    FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                                    @briankrebs whose going to tell them that Linksys is made in Taiwan and China?

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                                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                      Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                                      "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                                      WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                                      "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                                      "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                                      "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                                      Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                                      https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                                      FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                                      @briankrebs
                                      Who and what are the "Executive Branch Agencies" that determined these routers are a risk to national security?

                                      Is that Trump shitting on the toilet at 3am and thinking about how bad China is?

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                                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                        Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                                        "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                                        WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                                        "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                                        "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                                        "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                                        Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                                        https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                                        FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                                        @briankrebs Waiting for the moment when foreign produced ideas are a treat to national security, the natural escalation for any absolute regime.

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                                        • inchulk@mastodon.greenI inchulk@mastodon.green

                                          @briankrebs There is a logic to this. If a foreign country might cause their nation's soft/hardware to be used in a way that is nationalistic - then a ban could be justified. So by this logic, the EU, Canada & Southern hemisphere countries should immediately ban all new Microsoft, Meta, Apple and Amazon products.

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                                          @IncHulk I mean, honestly we should ALL be doing that anyway.

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