@bobjonkman via @CharlesSites sort of ask:

[mossyfoot@pdx.social]

@voiceofunreason @ascentale yeah agreed, my wife has presta and oof I hate them. I have to take off the rear wheel this weekend due to the stupid things.

[voiceofunreason@xoxo.zone]

@mossyfoot @ascentale unless the rims are absurdly narrow, you can fix the problem with a 21/64th drill bit, a deburring tool, and a pair of schrader tubes.

My personal theory is that presta valves only exist because ancient racing wheels had narrow wooden rims. Innertubes were literally sewn into a tire carcass that was glued (real glue) to the wooden rims. The smaller hole in the rim, the less likely it would fail and also made for more contact area for the glue.

[voiceofunreason@xoxo.zone]

@mossyfoot @ascentale Aluminum rims and modern “clincher” tires means presta is not required for all but the raciest of race rims (and likely carbon rims of any kind)

[mossyfoot@pdx.social]

@voiceofunreason @ascentale I've heard people talk about weight but this is an electric trike... Rounding error.

[voiceofunreason@xoxo.zone]

@mossyfoot @ascentale ha, maybe the weight difference of a single sip of water off a water bottle?

[ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org]

@ascentale @bobjonkman @CharlesSites @bikenite #BikeNite A4. I have a lot of Presta tubes (road bikes, "higher end" MTBs of their era all Presta). Schrader seems to be more robust, especially with the dangly pin and long shafts of the Presta tubes. But I wouldn't convert them/etc. They are a lot chunkier, lol.

[martycormack@urbanists.social]

@ascentale @bobjonkman @CharlesSites @bikenite
#BikeNite A4:
Four of my five bikes have Presta, one has Schrader. I just prefer Presta because that's what I deal with a ride most. The one with Schrader, my Brompton, is a bit problematic as with the narrow space between spokes, I can't use my usual pump head, and the one I have that works is a pain to screw onto the valve. I need a better pump head for that bike. Suggestions?

[geonz@mathstodon.xyz]

@ascentale @bobjonkman @CharlesSites @bikenite #bikenite #biketooter I have learned to handle the Prestas on my fast bike and I appreciate the high pressure fastness.
I also learned to put those valve caps on the Schraeders so things didn't get so grungy the pump wouldn't seat

[cainmark@mstdn.social]

@stereo4x4 @ascentale @bobjonkman@mastodon.sdf.org @CharlesSites @bikenite

That's awful!

#BikeNite

[mrbirch@beige.party]

@ascentale @bobjonkman @CharlesSites @bikenite

A4. I prefer presta. Partly just out of habit, but since the advent of tubeless, it’s now my default.

Some of the new solutions look interesting, esp. for tubeless but I’d want to see more adoption.

[lovestha@floss.social]

@ascentale @bobjonkman @CharlesSites @bikenite a4 #bikeNite I prefer presta, not really sure why, I wind buy a shrader tube, but won't bin one until it dies.

[cmgrowell@m.ai6yr.org]

@ascentale @bobjonkman @CharlesSites @bikenite A4. #BikeNite Presta for me. My very first MTB had schrader and they would clog and get very slow leaks when the pin didn't come back out. On one long group ride I was constantly stopping to add air. I was done with shrader after that.

I like being able to screw down the presta valves. They bend if you aren't careful, but that doesn't usually cause problems. They are easily and cheaply replaced. Maybe only certain tubes allow that, but I run tubeless on my mtb and being able to remove the valve core and replace old ones is a key feature. I carry a little shrader adapter so I can use normal pumps, if needed.

I have had some issues with mtb team kids who pumped up their tires and then didn't tighten down the presta valves tight enough and ended up with a slow leak. That can be difficult to diagnose. I've also had presta valves where the screws were so tight or clogged that I needed to use pliers to loosen them. I carry a multitool with mini pliers as a result. Some rims will only accept thinner presta valves.

Some of the new valves, like Clik Valve, look interesting, but I'm not sure I need anything that fancy.

[daihard@sharkey.world]

@ascentale@sfba.social @bobjonkman@mastodon.sdf.org @CharlesSites@hoosier.social @bikenite@fedigroups.social A4: I use both, and I don't have a strong preference. I do think it'd be more convenient if the valve type could be standardized, though. #BikeNite

[daihard@sharkey.world]

@MrBirch@beige.party @ascentale@sfba.social @bobjonkman@mastodon.sdf.org @CharlesSites@hoosier.social @bikenite@fedigroups.social You got me curious. How do you add sealant to tubeless tires through schrader valves?

#BikeNite

[mrbirch@beige.party]

@daihard @ascentale @bobjonkman @CharlesSites @bikenite
I’ve never seen tubeless schrader valves. Until I just searched for it, I didn’t know they existed. But, judging by random searching, I’d say they are a minority.

Like presta, you can remove the core.

[daihard@sharkey.world]

@MrBirch@beige.party @ascentale@sfba.social @bobjonkman@mastodon.sdf.org @CharlesSites@hoosier.social @bikenite@fedigroups.social Thanks. I'd have thought mountain bikes used schrader valves, but I must be wrong!

[stereo4x4@techhub.social]

@cainmark @ascentale @CharlesSites @bikenite those "smart" inflators don't work well with car tires as well at least from my experience. They are not accurate and prone to "user error", e.g. I managed to get one into a state with the air compressor running/making noise but the tire pressure dropping more and more until there was nearly no air left in the car tire.

Some gas stations have a bike air pump behind the counter, so asking for one doesn't hurt.

[ascentale@sfba.social]

@daihard @bobjonkman @CharlesSites @bikenite @MrBirch Yup, one of the sealant containers I had came with a schrader core removal attachment. Made of plastic, so not durable, but it still worked.

[knapjack@snac.gruntle.cc]

I am so here for this.

[the5thcolumnist@mstdn.ca]

@oheso @moira @ascentale @bobjonkman @CharlesSites @bikenite

No expert here but personally I've found the adapters that you screw onto the valve work better than ones that come with the pump.