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People are cheapskates with poor people but spendthrift with billionaires.

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    @alda

    I know. It's such a difficult job and this fun time we are all having living in a dense city just would not happen without this work. I guess I wish more people took that seriously. Especially because people die and are badly injured just trying to make it all happen.

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    @futurebird @alda In Paris the sanitation workers strike regularly just to make sure everyone remembers.

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      @Karen5Lund @Nerts

      I guess they maybe thought there was a broadway show in there or something. LMAO.

      (but, in a way, there is a broadway show in the sidewalk crack. Ant drama is high drama.)

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      @futurebird @Karen5Lund @Nerts

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      Myrmepropagandist: "Cause I'm an ANT FAN! 𝅘𝅥𝅮 Ski-Ba-Bop-Ba-Dop-Bop... 𝅘𝅥𝅮 "
      [ parody of Scatman John's work, earnestly detailing the fascinating qualities of family Formicidae, continues for 5 minutes and 11 seconds ]

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        People are cheapskates with poor people but spendthrift with billionaires.

        I just listened to someone complaining about how "the garbage union" has schemed so that there are always two people operating NYC garbage trucks to "waste my tax dollars" and I guess making too many wealthy sanitation workers... oh no the horror.

        I like that there are two people on each truck. It's more efficient and safer. But, even if it was somehow a waste I promise you that's not who is wasting your money bud.

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        @futurebird i think in Germany most garbage trucks are manned by three persons. One drives the others get the trashcans and mount them on the truck for emptying. Very efficient.

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          People are cheapskates with poor people but spendthrift with billionaires.

          I just listened to someone complaining about how "the garbage union" has schemed so that there are always two people operating NYC garbage trucks to "waste my tax dollars" and I guess making too many wealthy sanitation workers... oh no the horror.

          I like that there are two people on each truck. It's more efficient and safer. But, even if it was somehow a waste I promise you that's not who is wasting your money bud.

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          @futurebird
          Every Christmas I get the garbage guys a card and a coffee card as thanks for their service. I couldn’t live without the garbage man!

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            People are cheapskates with poor people but spendthrift with billionaires.

            I just listened to someone complaining about how "the garbage union" has schemed so that there are always two people operating NYC garbage trucks to "waste my tax dollars" and I guess making too many wealthy sanitation workers... oh no the horror.

            I like that there are two people on each truck. It's more efficient and safer. But, even if it was somehow a waste I promise you that's not who is wasting your money bud.

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            @futurebird

            There's this thing that happens where people are riled up by perceived injustice. Then this anger blinds them.

            Take benefit fraud. An absolute devil worshipper level evil according to the uk press. A frenzie of hate. Yet look at the consequences of a handful of people in your local town getting a few extra bob they "weren't supposed to"... your town has more people spending money.

            Compared to the profligate fraud of billionaires where our money disappears into tax havens.

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              How have so many people been trained to think like they are private equity managers who just want to cut every job, anything that makes middle class people exist?

              And this comment had a bunch of likes ... none of the people getting mad about this really are private equity managers. They won't get rich. But the sight of people with "cushy" (livable, decent) jobs just makes them mad?

              It's so depressing.

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              @futurebird I'm astonished how often I hear people complain about the laziness of people who are visibly working hard right in front of them.

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              • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                @futurebird

                There's this thing that happens where people are riled up by perceived injustice. Then this anger blinds them.

                Take benefit fraud. An absolute devil worshipper level evil according to the uk press. A frenzie of hate. Yet look at the consequences of a handful of people in your local town getting a few extra bob they "weren't supposed to"... your town has more people spending money.

                Compared to the profligate fraud of billionaires where our money disappears into tax havens.

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                @doctormo

                At some point I really wonder... if it's so "easy" to do those jobs or get "extra" benefits or be poor...

                My brother in christ, then, why oh why don't you just go and *live* that life? Go on! Take the advantages. I will not judge you for it. I want you to succeed. Have at it. What is stopping you?

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  People are cheapskates with poor people but spendthrift with billionaires.

                  I just listened to someone complaining about how "the garbage union" has schemed so that there are always two people operating NYC garbage trucks to "waste my tax dollars" and I guess making too many wealthy sanitation workers... oh no the horror.

                  I like that there are two people on each truck. It's more efficient and safer. But, even if it was somehow a waste I promise you that's not who is wasting your money bud.

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                  @futurebird we only get one sanitation specialist for most trucks.

                  Back in the day there would be three burly guys

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                    @EricLawton @futurebird

                    Obviously a system based on having an endless stream of disposable workers.

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      I'm struggling to even getting myself into the headspace where two people working a truck is upsetting to me.

                      Maybe this person works for UPS or some delivery company where drivers work alone and it is often *very dangerous*. (but just workable I guess? They still block traffic all the time) and they want everyone to suffer?

                      How do you look at a $7,000,000 patriot missile and get mad about more people being employed in the very honorable and *life-saving* work of collecting garbage?

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                      @futurebird Do you remember the NYC garbage strike? To this day it blows my mind that “nobody” learned any lessons from that very powerful action.

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                      • billiglarper@rollenspiel.socialB billiglarper@rollenspiel.social

                        @futurebird

                        It's absolutely depressing.

                        Perhaps they are projecting? The want to take advantage of others, so they see others taking advantage of them all the time? Pehaps reinforced by their own unhappyness in life? Like they think they would be "deserving" of more status, but "they" are keeping them down?

                        And it's doubly frustrating by how stupid it is. A driver and a collector is the bare minimum to be efficient. Anybody who has seen the speed at wich they work should know this.

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                        @billiglarper @futurebird
                        We have single operators most trucks here, city trucks. And the guys (it’s always guys) are rushed and are often seen driving away and dropping bins while moving fast

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          @Karen5Lund @Nerts

                          I guess they maybe thought there was a broadway show in there or something. LMAO.

                          (but, in a way, there is a broadway show in the sidewalk crack. Ant drama is high drama.)

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                          @futurebird @Karen5Lund @Nerts
                          I want an ant opera now.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            How have so many people been trained to think like they are private equity managers who just want to cut every job, anything that makes middle class people exist?

                            And this comment had a bunch of likes ... none of the people getting mad about this really are private equity managers. They won't get rich. But the sight of people with "cushy" (livable, decent) jobs just makes them mad?

                            It's so depressing.

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                            @futurebird Carl Icahn and Milton Friedman. It used to be that business management, for all its faults, was about stewardship of the institution rather than pleasing the most sociopathic of its short-term shareholders. Those two psychos very quickly created a meme (in the original sociological context) that infected a generation of people who were out to maximize their own pleasure. It changed the culture as a whole.

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                              @dartigen @futurebird @ehproque
                              Now that you mention it our guys probably ride inside the trucks now, too. I mostly see them walking behind the truck through the neighborhood. It's been years since I remember seeing someone on the back of a garbage truck on a major street.

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                @thejessiekirk

                                We love making things worse in America. Like having one person trying to run an entire pharmacy. (here our "chemists" don't just fill prescriptions but there is a whole connivence store too kind of like Boots in there too. They want to just have one person do this whole thing.)

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                                @futurebird @thejessiekirk

                                What chain is that so I can avoid it.

                                Not that CVS here has much if any competition other than the lil pharmacies in Safeway Stores.

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  People are cheapskates with poor people but spendthrift with billionaires.

                                  I just listened to someone complaining about how "the garbage union" has schemed so that there are always two people operating NYC garbage trucks to "waste my tax dollars" and I guess making too many wealthy sanitation workers... oh no the horror.

                                  I like that there are two people on each truck. It's more efficient and safer. But, even if it was somehow a waste I promise you that's not who is wasting your money bud.

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                                  @futurebird

                                  Over here we call that "bicycleing".
                                  Buckeling to the top and stepping on those at the bottom.

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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    People are cheapskates with poor people but spendthrift with billionaires.

                                    I just listened to someone complaining about how "the garbage union" has schemed so that there are always two people operating NYC garbage trucks to "waste my tax dollars" and I guess making too many wealthy sanitation workers... oh no the horror.

                                    I like that there are two people on each truck. It's more efficient and safer. But, even if it was somehow a waste I promise you that's not who is wasting your money bud.

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                                    @futurebird You need 3.
                                    Drive + two bin collector / emptiers.
                                    Safe and efficient. There are at least two big wheelie bins (general refuse and recycling) and a small bin of food waste / compostable (tissue paper allowed). Some areas have more kinds of big bins

                                    Privatisation crazy with 3 operators at different days, but only fortnightly collection instead of weekly. Needs to be back to councils.

                                    Glass to bottle banks in car parks.
                                    Cans & plastic bottles to collection that gives paper to spend.

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                                    • illuminatus@mstdn.socialI illuminatus@mstdn.social

                                      @baishen @futurebird I mean, did anybody pay attention to who were the critical workers six years ago? I believe that, contrary to what it may seem, yes, most people did, and that broke the brains of techbros and plutocrats, because their fucking charade about how they deserve to be overpaid fucks was there for everybody to see.

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                                      @Illuminatus @baishen @futurebird
                                      I tend to think this problem with plutocrat outlook (techbros in particular) significantly predates the pandemic.

                                      Any time the common folk aren't praising their brilliant business choices, these would-be oligarchs get pissy. So they dream of creating a future, either where they control a fief of loyal subjects who share their vision, or where they own everything and all work is automated (no need for ungreatful humans).

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        People are cheapskates with poor people but spendthrift with billionaires.

                                        I just listened to someone complaining about how "the garbage union" has schemed so that there are always two people operating NYC garbage trucks to "waste my tax dollars" and I guess making too many wealthy sanitation workers... oh no the horror.

                                        I like that there are two people on each truck. It's more efficient and safer. But, even if it was somehow a waste I promise you that's not who is wasting your money bud.

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                                        @futurebird it would be a terrible tragedy if a person who thinks 2 people are too many to operate a garbage truck was run over by a reversing garbage truck.

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                                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                          People are cheapskates with poor people but spendthrift with billionaires.

                                          I just listened to someone complaining about how "the garbage union" has schemed so that there are always two people operating NYC garbage trucks to "waste my tax dollars" and I guess making too many wealthy sanitation workers... oh no the horror.

                                          I like that there are two people on each truck. It's more efficient and safer. But, even if it was somehow a waste I promise you that's not who is wasting your money bud.

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                                          @futurebird The moment garbage wasn't collected, there would be a surcease of such speech, though certainly, another kind would commence.

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