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It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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  • gilesgoat@toot.walesG gilesgoat@toot.wales

    @AbramKedge @cloudhop To me coding 'unless I start already with some developed idea in mind' of course always involves quite a bit of thinking/re-watching some code I already done. I tend to 'split a big problem into a set of smaller problems' and work/test them one by one before to attempt "the big merge". Sometime I quickly type things in the editor as 'they are quick ideas I want to test' that then after much rework can turn into real functional code. Erm do I see a brony here 😎 ?

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    • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

      It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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      @cloudhop getting anything resembling a specification is the hardest part of programming, the second hardest is choosing variable names

      also, it's a thought activity, not a words per minute

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      • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

        It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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        @cloudhop except for the rest the funny sidenote would've been, that if typing speed was the issue: Executives should've adopted Dvorak and Neo as main keyboard Layouts and improving on that more and more.

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        • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

          It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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          @cloudhop

          Even before LLMs I used to have to remind people that typing is the easiest part of coding. 😭

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          • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

            It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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            @cloudhop @burnoutqueen i got over my imposter syndrome real quick when i realized management has absolutely no idea how anything works

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            • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

              It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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              @cloudhop @cstross I don't think we've been constrained by input speed since we stoped using the toggle switches on the consoles.

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                @bencourtice @coolcalmcollected @bangskij @cloudhop

                I always suspected software developers were holding back human progress by being slow typists...

                ...they even talk to rubber duckies to infuriate C-execs!

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                • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                  It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                  @cloudhop It’s not constrained by knowledge and understanding. Which is clearly the issue. The quality is dropping. Rapidly.

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                  • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                    @AbramKedge @gilesgoat I find that relying on spec driven or test driven development too early is useless when dependencies lie about their capabilities or are just broken. I prefer prototyping a design before writing any tests just so I can work with the libraries and get a better sense of what problems I might run into. I only write exhaustive tests after I have an architecture that has a working, functional end-to-end minimal example.

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                    @cloudhop @AbramKedge Well I don't test 'minimal pieces' at all but at the present I am working on a set of cross platforms libraries ( APIs ) so I want to be sure that "if I call banana() with params P1" I get the same "external" identical result/behaviour in all the platforms. So I need "a test program" to call a number of functions in certain ways and verify "they produce really the same results" and believe me there's ALWAYS SOMETHING that falls through and/or needs to be adjusted 🙄

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                    • gilesgoat@toot.walesG gilesgoat@toot.wales

                      @cloudhop @AbramKedge Well I don't test 'minimal pieces' at all but at the present I am working on a set of cross platforms libraries ( APIs ) so I want to be sure that "if I call banana() with params P1" I get the same "external" identical result/behaviour in all the platforms. So I need "a test program" to call a number of functions in certain ways and verify "they produce really the same results" and believe me there's ALWAYS SOMETHING that falls through and/or needs to be adjusted 🙄

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                      @gilesgoat @cloudhop That's a perfect use case, nice one 👍

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                      • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                        It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                        @cloudhop “Serial Entrepreneur” is the tell that they just might be all hat and no cattle.

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                        • coolcalmcollected@mastodon.socialC coolcalmcollected@mastodon.social

                          @bangskij @cloudhop

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                          @coolcalmcollected @bangskij @cloudhop

                          Everyone knows Beethoven's 9th Symphony takes 24 hours to perform.

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                            @cloudhop “Serial Entrepreneur” is the tell that they just might be all hat and no cattle.

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                            @bplein should've called them "wannabe executives"

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                            • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                              @bplein should've called them "wannabe executives"

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                              @cloudhop Solo entrepreneurs is another variation.

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