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  3. continued march of ai coding is really extinguishing any last flickering desire to improve my skills or find more interesting work within the field.

continued march of ai coding is really extinguishing any last flickering desire to improve my skills or find more interesting work within the field.

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    continued march of ai coding is really extinguishing any last flickering desire to improve my skills or find more interesting work within the field. what if i learned drums instead

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      continued march of ai coding is really extinguishing any last flickering desire to improve my skills or find more interesting work within the field. what if i learned drums instead

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      @dantescanline ai drums are honestly pretty good these days ngl

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        @dantescanline ai drums are honestly pretty good these days ngl

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        @liaizon you: 5000 euro drum machine
        me: throw brick into washing machine

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          continued march of ai coding is really extinguishing any last flickering desire to improve my skills or find more interesting work within the field. what if i learned drums instead

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          not even that i think it *has* to ruin what i found fun about programming. it's just that my main complaint for my own path is feeling that there's never ending stacking of complexity, we dont ever seem to condense or leave behind old layers when it comes to building internet apps. and then AI is basically people with a code generation firehose spraying at 10,000x normal speed while doing nothing about that complexity, even before you get to full multi agent vibe coded craziness.

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            @liaizon you: 5000 euro drum machine
            me: throw brick into washing machine

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            @dantescanline I consider the brick in the washing machine a new type of AI model

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              @dantescanline I consider the brick in the washing machine a new type of AI model

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              @liaizon this washing machine just ran the dubai marathon... can you??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO9ZY5V461c

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                @liaizon this washing machine just ran the dubai marathon... can you??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO9ZY5V461c

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                @liaizon wow i forgot how cool this looks at the end haha damn

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                  @liaizon this washing machine just ran the dubai marathon... can you??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO9ZY5V461c

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                  @dantescanline @liaizon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUfLHkkngjc

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                    not even that i think it *has* to ruin what i found fun about programming. it's just that my main complaint for my own path is feeling that there's never ending stacking of complexity, we dont ever seem to condense or leave behind old layers when it comes to building internet apps. and then AI is basically people with a code generation firehose spraying at 10,000x normal speed while doing nothing about that complexity, even before you get to full multi agent vibe coded craziness.

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                    @dantescanline this stuff is what motivates me to code more and strip back those layers myself

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                      @dantescanline this stuff is what motivates me to code more and strip back those layers myself

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                      @jazz for me its the opposite, i just want the layers settled i dont have an interest im rewriting them myself in a tiny way. it depends tho on what the task is.

                      like i dont need those layers if i want to make 2d games like your recent stuff, but if i want to deliver a proper desktop app cross platform with all the accessibility stuff then its kinda insane to think that im also gonna be down in the bowels writing my own ui framework or something

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                        @jazz for me its the opposite, i just want the layers settled i dont have an interest im rewriting them myself in a tiny way. it depends tho on what the task is.

                        like i dont need those layers if i want to make 2d games like your recent stuff, but if i want to deliver a proper desktop app cross platform with all the accessibility stuff then its kinda insane to think that im also gonna be down in the bowels writing my own ui framework or something

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                        @dantescanline its less about rewriting stuff because like people *have* done it already, u dont need electron to make a desktop app, ppl have been writing desktop ui since desktop ui existed. for me its usually about recognising and removing superfluous stuff like a lot of build processes and "helpers" and removing those. most js is like this nowadays

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                          @dantescanline its less about rewriting stuff because like people *have* done it already, u dont need electron to make a desktop app, ppl have been writing desktop ui since desktop ui existed. for me its usually about recognising and removing superfluous stuff like a lot of build processes and "helpers" and removing those. most js is like this nowadays

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                          @jazz what i mean is I don't think a lot of stuff is superfluous, its complicated partly because its stacks of old arcane tech.

                          like i think having a secure connection to a web server is a very good idea, but what we ended up with is like three zombie corpses of previous iterations of that tech stapled together and stuff like certbot on top to try and automate the pain away. we never replaced it with a single new complete implementation.

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