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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

    *4 hours later*
    me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

    qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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    qgustavor@urusai.social
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    #31

    @nixCraft Either you use something simple like .*@.*\..* (at least an at-sign and a dot after it) and send an e-mail with an link or you will summon a debate war on if the complete e-mail standards should be followed or not.

    And, if you choose to follow the standards, I have to warn you (and I guess some people had warned you already) that most e-mail servers do not follow the standard (like Cloudflare).

    On the other hand, I just sent a message from "example+';DROP/**/TABLE/**/users;#"@gmail.com to example@some-domain-of-mine and it arrived. I hope you never need to deal with addresses like those.

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

      *4 hours later*
      me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

      iliaf@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
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      iliaf@infosec.exchange
      wrote last edited by
      #32

      @nixCraft My experience tells me that if you have a problem and you solve it with regular expressions, you have two problems.

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

        *4 hours later*
        me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

        negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        negative12dollarbill@techhub.social
        wrote last edited by
        #33

        @nixCraft
        This reads like @cstross parody fiction and I mean that as a compliment.

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

          *4 hours later*
          me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

          pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
          pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
          pseudonym@mastodon.online
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          #34

          @nixCraft

          At least the ancient demon is bound to serve you, and not eat you until it provides you with a perfect email parsing library, right?

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

            *4 hours later*
            me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

            drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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            drangnon@hachyderm.io
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            #35

            @nixCraft https://regex101.com/ is your friend, your very very good friend

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            • qgustavor@urusai.socialQ qgustavor@urusai.social

              @nixCraft Either you use something simple like .*@.*\..* (at least an at-sign and a dot after it) and send an e-mail with an link or you will summon a debate war on if the complete e-mail standards should be followed or not.

              And, if you choose to follow the standards, I have to warn you (and I guess some people had warned you already) that most e-mail servers do not follow the standard (like Cloudflare).

              On the other hand, I just sent a message from "example+';DROP/**/TABLE/**/users;#"@gmail.com to example@some-domain-of-mine and it arrived. I hope you never need to deal with addresses like those.

              kawazoe@transfem.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
              kawazoe@transfem.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
              kawazoe@transfem.social
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              #36

              @qgustavor@urusai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social you have successfully summoned a debate war by forgetting that user@localhost is a valid email, so is user@::1, and any other locally resolved name and ipv6 address. Just containing a @ is more than enough if you already try to send an email to it. 😉

              Seriously though, enforcing a dot in the domain is probably reasonable for most publicly accessible email servers.

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                *4 hours later*
                me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                wyldphyre@mastodon.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
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                wyldphyre@mastodon.world
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                #37

                @nixCraft Can the daemon validate things for you?

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                  *4 hours later*
                  me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                  strawhousepig@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #38

                  @nixCraft now toss moving between BSD/macOS and GNU into the mix.

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                  • paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #39

                    @meeper JavaScript you say? The same person covered that too. This one made me want to punch my computer.

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                    new Date("wtf")

                    How well do you know JavaScript's Date class?

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                    jsdate.wtf (jsdate.wtf)

                    @nixCraft

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                    • S stealthytango@mastodon.world

                      @nixCraft I think this is the right page from the Necronomicon: (?:[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+(?:\.[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+)*|"(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21\x23-\x5b\x5d-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])*")@(?:(?:[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?\.)+[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?|\[(?:(?:25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.){3}(?:25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?|[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9]:(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21-\x5a\x53-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])+)\])

                      d1@autistics.lifeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #40

                      @StealthyTango and it needs to be typed in a demonic font, or it won't work.

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                      • foo__@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #41

                        @grepe was posted by someone on mastodon, I don't remember who 🙂 @nixCraft

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                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                          me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                          *4 hours later*
                          me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                          jhelou@mamot.frJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @nixCraft Everytime someone uses a regex to validate an email, god kills truckloads of kittens

                          Split on last @ ensuring the previous character is not itself an @

                          Check if the domain part resolves, make sure you allow for international domain names.

                          You can check if the localpart is well formed. IIRC this is not possible with regexes. You need a parser.

                          With a valid domain, sending an email is the only real way to verify if the address is actually valid. Well formed doesn't mean accepted.

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                            *4 hours later*
                            me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                            makini@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #43

                            @nixCraft Reminded of this old gem:

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                            • kawazoe@transfem.socialK kawazoe@transfem.social

                              @qgustavor@urusai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social you have successfully summoned a debate war by forgetting that user@localhost is a valid email, so is user@::1, and any other locally resolved name and ipv6 address. Just containing a @ is more than enough if you already try to send an email to it. 😉

                              Seriously though, enforcing a dot in the domain is probably reasonable for most publicly accessible email servers.

                              qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #44

                              @kawazoe @nixCraft I got my share of self-hosted things that don't allow using localhost as the domain (e.g. Pocketbase). ::1 I guess it's invalid, it should be user@[::1]. I have a sending email address that works (sometimes) with four at-signs.

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