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  • nickiquote@mstdn.socialN nickiquote@mstdn.social

    “4 Key Works by James Joyce You Need to Read”

    You absolutely do not need to read Finnegans Wake. This is a flat lie.

    There is no Finnegans Wake Enforcement Service. You will not be fined for failing to read over a thousand pages of impenetrable neologisms.

    There is no mandatory test to see if you know what Finnegans Wake means. The plot and characters of Finnegans Wake are not regular pub quiz questions.

    No-one will even give you a badge for reading Finnegans Wake, although they should.

    apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Nickiquote I found it a turgid and often incomprehensible mess. The real hero of the story is Joyce's long-suffering editor, who was often sent manuscripts from Joyce with hundreds of tiny, hand-written, barely legible corrections. I'm surprised that guy didn't just calmly stand up, leave his office and jump off the nearest bridge.

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    • sunumbral@beige.partyS sunumbral@beige.party

      @Nickiquote You're making me want to.

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      @sunumbral Fill your boots!

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      • nickiquote@mstdn.socialN nickiquote@mstdn.social

        “4 Key Works by James Joyce You Need to Read”

        You absolutely do not need to read Finnegans Wake. This is a flat lie.

        There is no Finnegans Wake Enforcement Service. You will not be fined for failing to read over a thousand pages of impenetrable neologisms.

        There is no mandatory test to see if you know what Finnegans Wake means. The plot and characters of Finnegans Wake are not regular pub quiz questions.

        No-one will even give you a badge for reading Finnegans Wake, although they should.

        alexpsmith@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Nickiquote Finnegans Wake and Gravity's Rainbow are two of the most impenetrable books I've ever suffered through.

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        • nickiquote@mstdn.socialN nickiquote@mstdn.social

          “4 Key Works by James Joyce You Need to Read”

          You absolutely do not need to read Finnegans Wake. This is a flat lie.

          There is no Finnegans Wake Enforcement Service. You will not be fined for failing to read over a thousand pages of impenetrable neologisms.

          There is no mandatory test to see if you know what Finnegans Wake means. The plot and characters of Finnegans Wake are not regular pub quiz questions.

          No-one will even give you a badge for reading Finnegans Wake, although they should.

          futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Nickiquote

          I really wish someone could tell this to me in my 20s... poor thing.

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          • alexpsmith@beige.partyA alexpsmith@beige.party

            @Nickiquote Finnegans Wake and Gravity's Rainbow are two of the most impenetrable books I've ever suffered through.

            mms@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @alexpsmith You finished them?! Woah. The last sentence of Ulysses was my death.

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            • mms@mastodon.bsd.cafeM mms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              @alexpsmith You finished them?! Woah. The last sentence of Ulysses was my death.

              alexpsmith@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mms I read Ulysses in uni so I had to finish. Hated every moment.

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              • alexpsmith@beige.partyA alexpsmith@beige.party

                @mms I read Ulysses in uni so I had to finish. Hated every moment.

                swisslet@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @alexpsmith @mms me too. Ugh.

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                • alexpsmith@beige.partyA alexpsmith@beige.party

                  @Nickiquote Finnegans Wake and Gravity's Rainbow are two of the most impenetrable books I've ever suffered through.

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                  @alexpsmith @Nickiquote Some writers seem to think that reading is a punishment or an act of masochism.

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                  • simonwilliamson@mastodon.worldS simonwilliamson@mastodon.world

                    @alexpsmith @Nickiquote Some writers seem to think that reading is a punishment or an act of masochism.

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                    @simonwilliamson @Nickiquote Thomas Pynchon can bite me.

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                    • nickiquote@mstdn.socialN nickiquote@mstdn.social

                      “4 Key Works by James Joyce You Need to Read”

                      You absolutely do not need to read Finnegans Wake. This is a flat lie.

                      There is no Finnegans Wake Enforcement Service. You will not be fined for failing to read over a thousand pages of impenetrable neologisms.

                      There is no mandatory test to see if you know what Finnegans Wake means. The plot and characters of Finnegans Wake are not regular pub quiz questions.

                      No-one will even give you a badge for reading Finnegans Wake, although they should.

                      seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @Nickiquote As an English major,, I confess that I find that James Joyce is absolutely annoying. I selected modules to avoid him.

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                      • nickiquote@mstdn.socialN nickiquote@mstdn.social

                        “4 Key Works by James Joyce You Need to Read”

                        You absolutely do not need to read Finnegans Wake. This is a flat lie.

                        There is no Finnegans Wake Enforcement Service. You will not be fined for failing to read over a thousand pages of impenetrable neologisms.

                        There is no mandatory test to see if you know what Finnegans Wake means. The plot and characters of Finnegans Wake are not regular pub quiz questions.

                        No-one will even give you a badge for reading Finnegans Wake, although they should.

                        simonwilliamson@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Nickiquote I would have thought some kind of therapy would be better. 🙂

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                        • nickiquote@mstdn.socialN nickiquote@mstdn.social

                          “4 Key Works by James Joyce You Need to Read”

                          You absolutely do not need to read Finnegans Wake. This is a flat lie.

                          There is no Finnegans Wake Enforcement Service. You will not be fined for failing to read over a thousand pages of impenetrable neologisms.

                          There is no mandatory test to see if you know what Finnegans Wake means. The plot and characters of Finnegans Wake are not regular pub quiz questions.

                          No-one will even give you a badge for reading Finnegans Wake, although they should.

                          karalg84@dragonscave.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Nickiquote The only Finnegans Wake I've endured is the Dubliners song.

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                          • nickiquote@mstdn.socialN nickiquote@mstdn.social

                            “4 Key Works by James Joyce You Need to Read”

                            You absolutely do not need to read Finnegans Wake. This is a flat lie.

                            There is no Finnegans Wake Enforcement Service. You will not be fined for failing to read over a thousand pages of impenetrable neologisms.

                            There is no mandatory test to see if you know what Finnegans Wake means. The plot and characters of Finnegans Wake are not regular pub quiz questions.

                            No-one will even give you a badge for reading Finnegans Wake, although they should.

                            rhosyn@masto.hackers.townR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            rhosyn@masto.hackers.town
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                            @Nickiquote Fortunately we have Campbell's "Skeleton Key to Finnegans Wake" and the "Exagmination Round His Factification" to stand in as somewhat less impenetrable glosses.

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                            • swisslet@mas.toS swisslet@mas.to

                              @alexpsmith @mms me too. Ugh.

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                              @swisslet @alexpsmith @mms I actually quite like a lot of Ulysses. Not all of it though.

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                              • nickiquote@mstdn.socialN nickiquote@mstdn.social

                                @swisslet @alexpsmith @mms I actually quite like a lot of Ulysses. Not all of it though.

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                                @Nickiquote @swisslet @mms Perhaps I need to try again as a mature (*ahem!!*) adult.

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                                • alexpsmith@beige.partyA alexpsmith@beige.party

                                  @Nickiquote @swisslet @mms Perhaps I need to try again as a mature (*ahem!!*) adult.

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                                  @alexpsmith @Nickiquote @mms I’m inclined to think that life is too short and my pile of unread books too big (he says, having just read LOTR again and embarking on a re-read of the 3 Musketeers books).

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                                  • swisslet@mas.toS swisslet@mas.to

                                    @alexpsmith @Nickiquote @mms I’m inclined to think that life is too short and my pile of unread books too big (he says, having just read LOTR again and embarking on a re-read of the 3 Musketeers books).

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                                    @swisslet @alexpsmith @Nickiquote As someone who is 70% in their first read of 3 musketeers: it's an amazing book!

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      @Nickiquote

                                      I really wish someone could tell this to me in my 20s... poor thing.

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                                      @Nickiquote

                                      I think Finnegans Wake could be a transcendent experience for some people with the right background in Irish history and language but it's just not a book that was written for everyone to just ... read. It's a translation project.

                                      Why exactly it was on so many lists of "must read" books that I encountered as a kid I will never understand. I would have been better off reading untranslated Beowulf. 😕

                                      Yes I'm a little annoyed about this.

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                                      • mms@mastodon.bsd.cafeM mms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        @swisslet @alexpsmith @Nickiquote As someone who is 70% in their first read of 3 musketeers: it's an amazing book!

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                                        @mms @alexpsmith @Nickiquote it’s a scream from start to finish. I love that D’Artagnan is such a prat. It’s the book that got me over my fear of “classic” novels after school and university. Turns out that some of them are absolute bangers. I think this book and its sequels were the first things I ever bought on Amazon in about 1999.

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                                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                          @Nickiquote

                                          I think Finnegans Wake could be a transcendent experience for some people with the right background in Irish history and language but it's just not a book that was written for everyone to just ... read. It's a translation project.

                                          Why exactly it was on so many lists of "must read" books that I encountered as a kid I will never understand. I would have been better off reading untranslated Beowulf. 😕

                                          Yes I'm a little annoyed about this.

                                          futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @Nickiquote

                                          But when I was younger I thought that "great writing" and a "great book" was a more intrinsic platonic sort of object.

                                          I wanted to write great stories, so I was curious about anything that people called "great" ... this meant that I spent way too much time trying to find a way into an impenetrable text. It was a mean joke to play putting a book like that on those lists.

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