Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

[juliehowlin@mastodon.social]

@thomasfuchs Not only are they greedy b****s forcing people to buy stuff they wouldn't otherwise need but also abject cowards since the news was broken to customers, as always, with a no reply e-mail. They are scared of people telling them what they think. I dread no reply emails because they are mostly telling me I'm being forced to do something onerous/massively inconvenient or something is being taken away from me.

[bubi352@mstdn.social]

@thomasfuchs typical EOL stuff. Download your library on the device and you can still use it. That's not a surprising thing a user of that service should complain about.

[foxontherun@mastodon.social]

@thomasfuchs I already changed.

[brad@1040ste.net]

@magnetichuman @thomasfuchs We'll let 'em use tomato sauce, we aren't monsters

[bithive@social.tchncs.de]

@thomasfuchs sadly didn't made it completely into the CRA but EU is on the right track there

[mijndert@toot.community]

@thomasfuchs same for Roomba… sigh.

[trimtab@mastodon.social]

@thomasfuchs
A helpful reminder that digital goods don't "exist". Access is only at the benevolent grace of EvilCorp ass-hats, non perpetual untouchable for your children and friends.

Give real books a try. They're easy on the eyes and never become e-waste.

[m750@better.boston]

@thomasfuchs I can tell you what I won't be doing, and that is buying a replacement. Like my nest thermostat, I'll be replacing it with a device off their network.

Less reason to have Amazon devices in my house.

[mihamarkic@mastodon.social]

@thomasfuchs Also EOL plan - what exactly happens to the obsolete device (recycling etc.). This would be valid for all products, not just devices.

[creaturr@app.wafrn.net]

@smn@l3ib.org @thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

if buying isn't owning…

[luboganev@androiddev.social]

@thomasfuchs it would suffice if the law doesn't punish hacking or reverse engineering them. Too many countries have followed the US laws that basically result in "you don't own what you bought". If those disappear, people will find ways to continue using those products.

[pkoopmanpk@mastodon.nl]

I think he should insert them as suppositories.

[kkarhan@jorts.horse]

@thomasfuchs +9001%

Same goes for any #copyright|ed material: If the IP holder refuses to #license it anew all #copyrights should be null and void and the #SourceCode be forcibly published under #0BSD!

[kkarhan@jorts.horse]

@mihamarkic @thomasfuchs There's no legitimate reason to #EoL almost all devices…

• We don't EoL pacemakers either!

Kevin Karhan (@kkarhan@jorts.horse)

@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io +9001% Same goes for any #copyright|ed material: If the IP holder refuses to #license it anew all #copyrights should be null and void and the #SourceCode be forcibly published under #0BSD!

jorts.horse (jorts.horse)

[eatsbluecrayon@rollenspiel.social]

@dnparadice @thomasfuchs I have been trying to 100 percent avoid Amazon, but with a lot of places to buy eBooks from, it's more walled gardens. Kobo requires their own hardware or an Adobe ID. The books I want to buy are rarely available at other sources. I have tried so much, but everything is so complicated and time consuming and in the end I'm not owning my books.
I am back to sailing the high seas and instead of paying publishers I'm donating to the authors directly. If they offer that.

[karl@infosec.exchange]

@mijndert @thomasfuchs And this is why I bought a roomba that isn't connected. It doesn't care about servers shutting down because it doesn't know about the internet.

Old tech is sadly sometimes more reliable.

[magnetichuman@cupoftea.social]

@brad @thomasfuchs employees say Terry is the best CEO they can remember

[mmu_man@m.g3l.org]

@thomasfuchs and all schematics and documents should be given to states in case the company doesn't survive.

[taatm@mathstodon.xyz]

@thomasfuchs @Gargron
Yes, with these tweaks:
1) The law should say they are automatically open on lack of support.
2) Details on opening devices is kept as a wind down plan.

This covers collapsing companies and closing legal entities as well as lazy ones moving on.

[mihamarkic@mastodon.social]

@kkarhan @thomasfuchs Not forcibly, but eventually every device meets its end.