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Saw a new bit of AI hell today:

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    Saw a new bit of AI hell today:

    Why haven't you finished this? With AI tools, it should be easy.

    This was from a random passer by on a GitHub issue that's been dormant for over a year because the developer working on the feature has wondered off. The random passer by had no intention of helping. They just want the feature (which is a massive amount of work).

    Ya'know, just casually assuming that the main project developers are either idiots or lazy because you believe in the great AI in the clouds.

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    • faithisleaping@anarres.familyF faithisleaping@anarres.family

      Saw a new bit of AI hell today:

      Why haven't you finished this? With AI tools, it should be easy.

      This was from a random passer by on a GitHub issue that's been dormant for over a year because the developer working on the feature has wondered off. The random passer by had no intention of helping. They just want the feature (which is a massive amount of work).

      Ya'know, just casually assuming that the main project developers are either idiots or lazy because you believe in the great AI in the clouds.

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      @faithisleaping πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ™„

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      • faithisleaping@anarres.familyF faithisleaping@anarres.family

        Saw a new bit of AI hell today:

        Why haven't you finished this? With AI tools, it should be easy.

        This was from a random passer by on a GitHub issue that's been dormant for over a year because the developer working on the feature has wondered off. The random passer by had no intention of helping. They just want the feature (which is a massive amount of work).

        Ya'know, just casually assuming that the main project developers are either idiots or lazy because you believe in the great AI in the clouds.

        faithisleaping@anarres.familyF This user is from outside of this forum
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        When you're a software engineer, you deal with a lot of bullies. Managers who'd rather bully their employees than empower them. "Senior" engineers who are better at social engineering than writing code. Users who think their pet grievance is the most important thing on earth. The list goes on and on.

        And if there's one thing AI has done in the last year, it's to empower the bullies.

        Managers now feel justified in asking you why the project has taken so long. "Well, are you using AI?" Users who already felt entitled to our time and productivity now think they should have gotten it all yesterday because, "You could just use AI." Senior Bully engineers now have another way to invalidate the work of others with "I could probably do that with AI over a week-end." That guy who should be helping you but never wants to can blow you off with, "Well, did you ask ChatGPT?" as if that has actual answers.

        Of course, none of it is true. None of it has ever been true. Bullies have always been bullies. Manager expectations have always been unrealistic. The only difference is that they now have a trillion dollar industry and a whole social shift backing their behavior and the poor engineers who are just trying to get the work done have been handed a lame-duck tool and are expected to be grateful.

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          When you're a software engineer, you deal with a lot of bullies. Managers who'd rather bully their employees than empower them. "Senior" engineers who are better at social engineering than writing code. Users who think their pet grievance is the most important thing on earth. The list goes on and on.

          And if there's one thing AI has done in the last year, it's to empower the bullies.

          Managers now feel justified in asking you why the project has taken so long. "Well, are you using AI?" Users who already felt entitled to our time and productivity now think they should have gotten it all yesterday because, "You could just use AI." Senior Bully engineers now have another way to invalidate the work of others with "I could probably do that with AI over a week-end." That guy who should be helping you but never wants to can blow you off with, "Well, did you ask ChatGPT?" as if that has actual answers.

          Of course, none of it is true. None of it has ever been true. Bullies have always been bullies. Manager expectations have always been unrealistic. The only difference is that they now have a trillion dollar industry and a whole social shift backing their behavior and the poor engineers who are just trying to get the work done have been handed a lame-duck tool and are expected to be grateful.

          ics@tau-ceti.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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          @faithisleaping I tell you, becoming a shepher, but herding only black sheep, sounds more and more enticing...

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          • faithisleaping@anarres.familyF faithisleaping@anarres.family

            When you're a software engineer, you deal with a lot of bullies. Managers who'd rather bully their employees than empower them. "Senior" engineers who are better at social engineering than writing code. Users who think their pet grievance is the most important thing on earth. The list goes on and on.

            And if there's one thing AI has done in the last year, it's to empower the bullies.

            Managers now feel justified in asking you why the project has taken so long. "Well, are you using AI?" Users who already felt entitled to our time and productivity now think they should have gotten it all yesterday because, "You could just use AI." Senior Bully engineers now have another way to invalidate the work of others with "I could probably do that with AI over a week-end." That guy who should be helping you but never wants to can blow you off with, "Well, did you ask ChatGPT?" as if that has actual answers.

            Of course, none of it is true. None of it has ever been true. Bullies have always been bullies. Manager expectations have always been unrealistic. The only difference is that they now have a trillion dollar industry and a whole social shift backing their behavior and the poor engineers who are just trying to get the work done have been handed a lame-duck tool and are expected to be grateful.

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            @faithisleaping Before I finally settled on horticulture I studied computer science. One of the reasons I left the field was the really frustrating amount of bullies who all thought they were oh so progressive for even speaking to me, a woman in their eyes, about computing. I just could not imagine to spend the rest of my working with them.

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              @faithisleaping I tell you, becoming a shepher, but herding only black sheep, sounds more and more enticing...

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              @ics Chasing these tech bullies around a field with trained dogs does sound enticing.
              @faithisleaping

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                @ics Chasing these tech bullies around a field with trained dogs does sound enticing.
                @faithisleaping

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                @SymTrkl @faithisleaping That to, right.

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                • symtrkl@merping.synth.downloadS symtrkl@merping.synth.download

                  @ics Chasing these tech bullies around a field with trained dogs does sound enticing.
                  @faithisleaping

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                  @SymTrkl The thing is... That's what every bully manager thinks they're doing.

                  @ics

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