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  • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

    Linux brains…

    You know how MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen, and you can gesture with three fingers between them… is there a Linux equivalent? It probably has a pretentious name, but I don’t store them in the ol’ melon.

    Windows’ implementation is terrible. So that’s the baseline.

    I’ve seen workspaces in Linux for decades now, but it’s been pretty clunky comparatively. I can’t tell you how productive this really simple interaction makes me.

    Some of it is likely down to the MacBook touchpads being the gold standard, but I do have a Lenovo one that isn’t terrible.

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    @SecurityWriter That sounds a bit like a scrolling window manager, which is similar to a tilling window manager, but hadt the ability to create new screens for full-screen windows that you can get to through various means (I'm sure you could do it with that gesture). The workspace system is then on top of that, so you get several scrolling workspaces.

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    • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

      @TheTomas ahah! Do you find it as responsive? I think that’s the real defining difference from the “we have that at home” implementations I’ve tried.

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      @SecurityWriter @TheTomas The gesture works well, but Gnome doesn’t have the maximise-to-a-new-workspace feature as far as I know.

      You might be able to make something using KWin in KDE … but it’d need to be handcrafted and there are some apps that don’t play well with KWin.

      Signed, a Mac user who is also trying to switch to Linux.

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      • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

        Linux brains…

        You know how MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen, and you can gesture with three fingers between them… is there a Linux equivalent? It probably has a pretentious name, but I don’t store them in the ol’ melon.

        Windows’ implementation is terrible. So that’s the baseline.

        I’ve seen workspaces in Linux for decades now, but it’s been pretty clunky comparatively. I can’t tell you how productive this really simple interaction makes me.

        Some of it is likely down to the MacBook touchpads being the gold standard, but I do have a Lenovo one that isn’t terrible.

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        #10

        @SecurityWriter in i3, those are also workspaces. mod key plus a number jumps right to them (I use the windows key for mod), mod+shift+number flings windows to them, use the arrow keys for running up and down through them.

        I have to use macOS for work; I use linux and i3 on my own laptop; and it's only the work laptop where five or six times a week I have to take a deep breath to stop myself standing up, opening a window and flinging the fucking thing out into the void in frustration.

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        • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

          Linux brains…

          You know how MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen, and you can gesture with three fingers between them… is there a Linux equivalent? It probably has a pretentious name, but I don’t store them in the ol’ melon.

          Windows’ implementation is terrible. So that’s the baseline.

          I’ve seen workspaces in Linux for decades now, but it’s been pretty clunky comparatively. I can’t tell you how productive this really simple interaction makes me.

          Some of it is likely down to the MacBook touchpads being the gold standard, but I do have a Lenovo one that isn’t terrible.

          froge@social.glitched.systemsF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @SecurityWriter@infosec.exchange it depends hugely on the desktop environment, I believe in KDE there is a way to keybind this and/or attach it to mouse gestures

          as for how well that works with a touch pad, I don't know since I use keybinds heavily, but I think it'd work at least

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          • thetomas@social.toot9.deT thetomas@social.toot9.de

            @SecurityWriter As Ex-Apple User I do understand you in missing Expose and other gestures. For me Gnome with its 3-finger Swipes works perfectly on a Thinkpad T480.

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            @TheTomas I use something like this on KDE. It's a nice little feature.

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            • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

              Linux brains…

              You know how MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen, and you can gesture with three fingers between them… is there a Linux equivalent? It probably has a pretentious name, but I don’t store them in the ol’ melon.

              Windows’ implementation is terrible. So that’s the baseline.

              I’ve seen workspaces in Linux for decades now, but it’s been pretty clunky comparatively. I can’t tell you how productive this really simple interaction makes me.

              Some of it is likely down to the MacBook touchpads being the gold standard, but I do have a Lenovo one that isn’t terrible.

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              @SecurityWriter Gnome workspaces respond to three finger swipes, but I prefer Ctrl+<left arrow> and Ctrl+<right arrow> bindings so I never take my hands off the keyboard.

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              • musing_sys@social.fringesec.caM musing_sys@social.fringesec.ca
                @SecurityWriter That sounds handy... went looking. Touchegg appears to be what you're looking for
                https://www.baeldung.com/linux/touchpad-gestures
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                @SecurityWriter oh, not having any reason to look previously... Linux Mint Cinnamon has it baked in apparently, just needs to be enabled
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                • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                  Linux brains…

                  You know how MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen, and you can gesture with three fingers between them… is there a Linux equivalent? It probably has a pretentious name, but I don’t store them in the ol’ melon.

                  Windows’ implementation is terrible. So that’s the baseline.

                  I’ve seen workspaces in Linux for decades now, but it’s been pretty clunky comparatively. I can’t tell you how productive this really simple interaction makes me.

                  Some of it is likely down to the MacBook touchpads being the gold standard, but I do have a Lenovo one that isn’t terrible.

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                  @SecurityWriter You can use 4 fingers ? I thinks it's implemented in gnome and KDE.
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                  • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                    Linux brains…

                    You know how MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen, and you can gesture with three fingers between them… is there a Linux equivalent? It probably has a pretentious name, but I don’t store them in the ol’ melon.

                    Windows’ implementation is terrible. So that’s the baseline.

                    I’ve seen workspaces in Linux for decades now, but it’s been pretty clunky comparatively. I can’t tell you how productive this really simple interaction makes me.

                    Some of it is likely down to the MacBook touchpads being the gold standard, but I do have a Lenovo one that isn’t terrible.

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                    @SecurityWriter
                    > MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen

                    I like that but I don't know how to do that with #gnome or #kde unfortunately.

                    For the three fingers gesture, I guess it was not your main question and there is a lot of answer.

                    I didn't try to create a window rule with KDE, maybe it is possible to achieve that actually!! ( that's a #question for someone that use #plasma )

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                    • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                      Linux brains…

                      You know how MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen, and you can gesture with three fingers between them… is there a Linux equivalent? It probably has a pretentious name, but I don’t store them in the ol’ melon.

                      Windows’ implementation is terrible. So that’s the baseline.

                      I’ve seen workspaces in Linux for decades now, but it’s been pretty clunky comparatively. I can’t tell you how productive this really simple interaction makes me.

                      Some of it is likely down to the MacBook touchpads being the gold standard, but I do have a Lenovo one that isn’t terrible.

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                      @SecurityWriter the window manager Niri is that if it was considered holistically alongside everything else rather than an afterthought made mostly to look nice.

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                      • fishd@infosec.exchangeF fishd@infosec.exchange

                        @SecurityWriter @TheTomas The gesture works well, but Gnome doesn’t have the maximise-to-a-new-workspace feature as far as I know.

                        You might be able to make something using KWin in KDE … but it’d need to be handcrafted and there are some apps that don’t play well with KWin.

                        Signed, a Mac user who is also trying to switch to Linux.

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                        @Fishd @SecurityWriter Yep, but there's an Gnome Extension for this (I do not use it, just FYI)

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                        Maximize To Workspace With History - GNOME Shell Extensions

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                        (extensions.gnome.org)

                        These are the Extensions I am using:

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                        • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                          Linux brains…

                          You know how MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen, and you can gesture with three fingers between them… is there a Linux equivalent? It probably has a pretentious name, but I don’t store them in the ol’ melon.

                          Windows’ implementation is terrible. So that’s the baseline.

                          I’ve seen workspaces in Linux for decades now, but it’s been pretty clunky comparatively. I can’t tell you how productive this really simple interaction makes me.

                          Some of it is likely down to the MacBook touchpads being the gold standard, but I do have a Lenovo one that isn’t terrible.

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                          @SecurityWriter try tiling and pop! os

                          Different workflows, but same ideas

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                          • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                            Linux brains…

                            You know how MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen, and you can gesture with three fingers between them… is there a Linux equivalent? It probably has a pretentious name, but I don’t store them in the ol’ melon.

                            Windows’ implementation is terrible. So that’s the baseline.

                            I’ve seen workspaces in Linux for decades now, but it’s been pretty clunky comparatively. I can’t tell you how productive this really simple interaction makes me.

                            Some of it is likely down to the MacBook touchpads being the gold standard, but I do have a Lenovo one that isn’t terrible.

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                            @SecurityWriter there is FullScreenify for KDE Plasma, it does the the Fullscreen Thing. Touch Gestures should work oob.

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                            • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                              Linux brains…

                              You know how MacOS creates a workspace when you make an app full screen, and you can gesture with three fingers between them… is there a Linux equivalent? It probably has a pretentious name, but I don’t store them in the ol’ melon.

                              Windows’ implementation is terrible. So that’s the baseline.

                              I’ve seen workspaces in Linux for decades now, but it’s been pretty clunky comparatively. I can’t tell you how productive this really simple interaction makes me.

                              Some of it is likely down to the MacBook touchpads being the gold standard, but I do have a Lenovo one that isn’t terrible.

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                              @SecurityWriter

                              There's the actual multiple workspaces thing that's been around forever - not exactly like the Mac version, but lets you easily flip between different desktops / screens full of windows / whatever.

                              I use Cinnamon, so once you configure multiple workspaces, you can switch with ctrl-alt-left-arrow and -right-arrow. I don't recall if the hotkeys are different in Gnome or KDE or whatever, and I haven't used those in a decade or more, so I'd probably be wrong anyway - but every desktop at least used to support the same thing.

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                              • musing_sys@social.fringesec.caM musing_sys@social.fringesec.ca
                                @SecurityWriter That sounds handy... went looking. Touchegg appears to be what you're looking for
                                https://www.baeldung.com/linux/touchpad-gestures
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                                @musing_sys@social.fringesec.ca @SecurityWriter@infosec.exchange This looks very outdated. All functionality shown in the article is long since part of base gnome at this point.

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                                • sheogorath@microblog.shivering-isles.comS sheogorath@microblog.shivering-isles.com

                                  @SecurityWriter Switchting between workspaces on GNOME works with the 3 finger gesture as well.

                                  Do you mean something else? Something that MacOS does, that is more than switching between Workspaces?

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                                  @sheogorath yeah, MacOS makes full screen apps their own ‘workspaces’ but good to know the other piece is there.

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                                  • musing_sys@social.fringesec.caM musing_sys@social.fringesec.ca
                                    @SecurityWriter oh, not having any reason to look previously... Linux Mint Cinnamon has it baked in apparently, just needs to be enabled
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                                    @musing_sys appreciated, I’ll have a look!

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