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    Chaos Communication Congress 2024:

    "Do not obey in advance"
    https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-opening-ceremony#t=1347

    #systemd: hold my beer.
    https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954
    "as required by recent laws"

    Merged 4 days ago.

    If German communication infrastructure providers had obeyed in advance like that, privacy violating data retention would be a reality in Germany now.

    #38c3 #ccc

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      Chaos Communication Congress 2024:

      "Do not obey in advance"
      https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-opening-ceremony#t=1347

      #systemd: hold my beer.
      https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954
      "as required by recent laws"

      Merged 4 days ago.

      If German communication infrastructure providers had obeyed in advance like that, privacy violating data retention would be a reality in Germany now.

      #38c3 #ccc

      debaer@23.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @ArneBab Wasn't this Linux originally supposed to be a multi user operating system? Oh well, another reason to stay far away from modern toy Linux distributions and migrate to Devuan or one of the big BSDs…

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        @ArneBab Wasn't this Linux originally supposed to be a multi user operating system? Oh well, another reason to stay far away from modern toy Linux distributions and migrate to Devuan or one of the big BSDs…

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        @deBaer My understanding is that this is per-user.

        And can only be set by the admin:

        > birthDate is excluded from user_record_self_modifiable_fields(), so only
        > administrators can set or change it via homectl

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          @deBaer My understanding is that this is per-user.

          And can only be set by the admin:

          > birthDate is excluded from user_record_self_modifiable_fields(), so only
          > administrators can set or change it via homectl

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          @deBaer aside: poettering who’s saying in the issue "it is fine" started working for Microsoft a few years ago.

          Sadly that didn’t surprise me …

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            Chaos Communication Congress 2024:

            "Do not obey in advance"
            https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-opening-ceremony#t=1347

            #systemd: hold my beer.
            https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954
            "as required by recent laws"

            Merged 4 days ago.

            If German communication infrastructure providers had obeyed in advance like that, privacy violating data retention would be a reality in Germany now.

            #38c3 #ccc

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            Next expected step is that when you setup a new user, you must get their birth date signed by some online service which checks your ID card (maybe with video-ID).

            Because having a wrong birth date registered would be bad, right?

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            • arnebab@rollenspiel.socialA arnebab@rollenspiel.social

              @deBaer My understanding is that this is per-user.

              And can only be set by the admin:

              > birthDate is excluded from user_record_self_modifiable_fields(), so only
              > administrators can set or change it via homectl

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              @ArneBab OK, thank you, now I know that userdb.service exists, but that doesn't make me feel any better. Everything that needs to be known about a user should either be in /etc/passwd, the user's home directory or, for all the enterprisey types, in a real LDAP server. This additional layer makes no sense.

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                @ArneBab OK, thank you, now I know that userdb.service exists, but that doesn't make me feel any better. Everything that needs to be known about a user should either be in /etc/passwd, the user's home directory or, for all the enterprisey types, in a real LDAP server. This additional layer makes no sense.

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                @deBaer systemd is the Windowsing of Linux.

                Just check whom Poettering works for now.

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                • arnebab@rollenspiel.socialA arnebab@rollenspiel.social

                  @deBaer systemd is the Windowsing of Linux.

                  Just check whom Poettering works for now.

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                  @ArneBab "What you're referring to as Linux, is, in fact, systemd/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, systemd plus Linux."

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