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Hey, do you know what happens with suddenly unmanned fossil fuel production facilities?

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  • anlomedad@fedifreu.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Hey, do you know what happens with suddenly unmanned fossil fuel production facilities?

    I know coal pits simply keep on giving. Methane.

    But what about oil wells, onshore, offshore? And gas wells?

    How long will they burn or seep into surrounding area?
    Which radius is affected in 10 years, in 50 years, in 100 years?

    And will unmanned gas wells forever spew methane into the atmosphere? How much will that be?

    #RCPcollapse research should cover this topic. To inform collapse survivors: which toxic regions to avoid – and which additional warming = additional extreme weather impacts to expect, despite civilisation collapse.

    And to maybe, maybe inform decision-makers.
    Because closing such suddenly unmanned production sites is probably technically feasible. It has to be invented and then also installed tho. Within the next 10 to 15 years.

    #ClimateChange #Collapse

    murmelthier@climatejustice.socialM karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK 2 Replies Last reply
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    • anlomedad@fedifreu.deA anlomedad@fedifreu.de

      Hey, do you know what happens with suddenly unmanned fossil fuel production facilities?

      I know coal pits simply keep on giving. Methane.

      But what about oil wells, onshore, offshore? And gas wells?

      How long will they burn or seep into surrounding area?
      Which radius is affected in 10 years, in 50 years, in 100 years?

      And will unmanned gas wells forever spew methane into the atmosphere? How much will that be?

      #RCPcollapse research should cover this topic. To inform collapse survivors: which toxic regions to avoid – and which additional warming = additional extreme weather impacts to expect, despite civilisation collapse.

      And to maybe, maybe inform decision-makers.
      Because closing such suddenly unmanned production sites is probably technically feasible. It has to be invented and then also installed tho. Within the next 10 to 15 years.

      #ClimateChange #Collapse

      murmelthier@climatejustice.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      murmelthier@climatejustice.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      murmelthier@climatejustice.social
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      @anlomedad

      If you mean war as a cause of "suddenly unmanned" I'd bet there are numbers or even studies out there about the burning oil wells in Kuwait 1991 which took several months to extinguish and could be seen as a kind of worst case scenario.

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      • anlomedad@fedifreu.deA anlomedad@fedifreu.de

        Hey, do you know what happens with suddenly unmanned fossil fuel production facilities?

        I know coal pits simply keep on giving. Methane.

        But what about oil wells, onshore, offshore? And gas wells?

        How long will they burn or seep into surrounding area?
        Which radius is affected in 10 years, in 50 years, in 100 years?

        And will unmanned gas wells forever spew methane into the atmosphere? How much will that be?

        #RCPcollapse research should cover this topic. To inform collapse survivors: which toxic regions to avoid – and which additional warming = additional extreme weather impacts to expect, despite civilisation collapse.

        And to maybe, maybe inform decision-makers.
        Because closing such suddenly unmanned production sites is probably technically feasible. It has to be invented and then also installed tho. Within the next 10 to 15 years.

        #ClimateChange #Collapse

        karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @anlomedad Abandoned wells have been a huge issue for a while, especially in Southern Turtle Island. I vaguely recall a paper calculating the cost for the Texas EPA, but it's been looong time ago.

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        • murmelthier@climatejustice.socialM murmelthier@climatejustice.social

          @anlomedad

          If you mean war as a cause of "suddenly unmanned" I'd bet there are numbers or even studies out there about the burning oil wells in Kuwait 1991 which took several months to extinguish and could be seen as a kind of worst case scenario.

          anlomedad@fedifreu.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @MurmeltHier

          Good idea for a paper search, merci!

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          • anlomedad@fedifreu.deA anlomedad@fedifreu.de

            @MurmeltHier

            Good idea for a paper search, merci!

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            @MurmeltHier

            But no, my question wasn't confined to war.
            It's all about RCPCollapse, my demand for research into an emission scenario that explicitly lets all supply chains break around 2040 and informs collapse survivors beforehand how biomes, climate and everything else will evolve in that case in their region.

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            • karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.social

              @anlomedad Abandoned wells have been a huge issue for a while, especially in Southern Turtle Island. I vaguely recall a paper calculating the cost for the Texas EPA, but it's been looong time ago.

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              @KarlHeinzHasliP

              A few years back, researchers sounded the alarm regarding abandoned open gas wells in the North Sea, too. The continental shelf is rather shallow so the methane seeping out of the holes "not only" disrupts the ecosystem but in some places manages to reach the surface.
              And I dimly recall a follow-up that companies indeed started or were made to start plugging the holes.

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              • karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.social

                @anlomedad Abandoned wells have been a huge issue for a while, especially in Southern Turtle Island. I vaguely recall a paper calculating the cost for the Texas EPA, but it's been looong time ago.

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                @KarlHeinzHasliP

                A fossil gas deposit in Turkmenistan has been ignited deliberately by engineers after a drilling accident in the 1960s, and is still burning.
                https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2025/0806/1527158-turkmenistan/

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                So yeah. Everything that isn't properly plugged will just keep on giving in gaseous form and as liquid. If wells stay unplugged after the collapse, they'll poison the environment and raise °C for generations.
                Someone needs to invent and install dead-man-switches.
                Can't do anything against methane from open coal pits but underground coal mines can be closed wrt their gas leaks too.


                #RCPcollapse #ClimateChange

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                • anlomedad@fedifreu.deA anlomedad@fedifreu.de

                  @KarlHeinzHasliP

                  A fossil gas deposit in Turkmenistan has been ignited deliberately by engineers after a drilling accident in the 1960s, and is still burning.
                  https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2025/0806/1527158-turkmenistan/

                  Link Preview Image
                  Darvaza gas crater - Wikipedia

                  favicon

                  (en.wikipedia.org)

                  So yeah. Everything that isn't properly plugged will just keep on giving in gaseous form and as liquid. If wells stay unplugged after the collapse, they'll poison the environment and raise °C for generations.
                  Someone needs to invent and install dead-man-switches.
                  Can't do anything against methane from open coal pits but underground coal mines can be closed wrt their gas leaks too.


                  #RCPcollapse #ClimateChange

                  karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @anlomedad We wrote a short story draft we developed at some point about bounty hunters finding and closing methane leaks at a OECD Foresight event:
                  https://climategains.community/t/that-story-we-co-wrote-at-the-oecd-workshp/308

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                  • anlomedad@fedifreu.deA anlomedad@fedifreu.de

                    @KarlHeinzHasliP

                    A fossil gas deposit in Turkmenistan has been ignited deliberately by engineers after a drilling accident in the 1960s, and is still burning.
                    https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2025/0806/1527158-turkmenistan/

                    Link Preview Image
                    Darvaza gas crater - Wikipedia

                    favicon

                    (en.wikipedia.org)

                    So yeah. Everything that isn't properly plugged will just keep on giving in gaseous form and as liquid. If wells stay unplugged after the collapse, they'll poison the environment and raise °C for generations.
                    Someone needs to invent and install dead-man-switches.
                    Can't do anything against methane from open coal pits but underground coal mines can be closed wrt their gas leaks too.


                    #RCPcollapse #ClimateChange

                    brad@1040ste.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @anlomedad @KarlHeinzHasliP Unless they're going to properly cap the well and stop all the methane leaks, we'd have been better off with it burning. At least then it's CO2 and not CH4 being vented.

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                    • brad@1040ste.netB brad@1040ste.net

                      @anlomedad @KarlHeinzHasliP Unless they're going to properly cap the well and stop all the methane leaks, we'd have been better off with it burning. At least then it's CO2 and not CH4 being vented.

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                      @brad @anlomedad ... We know for a fact that the Northstream bombing wasn't climate terrorism - because climate terrorists would have flared the gas.

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