I tried running a dedicated stand alone Bluesky server/network but i was unable to

It’s not as simple as just running a PDS, that’s just a super small part of it. Bluesky is designed to keep everyone needing their service one way or another

It's worth remembering that Mastodon hit a per instance user limits early on, which led to a similar criticism that lasted years. Given enough time, today's network that doesn't solely rely on the official instance emerged.

It's also easy to forget that running a Mastodon instance can be EXPENSIVE! The one I'm on with maybe a few hundred active users costs $700/mo. IMO this should be way less, but I don't know if the Mastodon org can or has the right incentives to actually fix it.

There are HUGE benefits in both designs, but other than the outages the incentive for the BlueSky (AtProto) network to further decentralize aren't life-or-death as they were here.

Ultimately most likely all of the above.

At the same time, my consideration is that most things are not only black and white, and for some reason the saying "the road to hell is plastered with a shit load of good intentions" goes a long way.

It is reasonable to consider that initial ideas and ideals are and remain deeply rooted in people. At the same time, not only every one is corruptible by money and power but also extortionable.
Everyone.
And if you think you are not vulnerable to extortion, well, think again about your feelings, your personal experiences in life, if their are "things" that are precious to you or you fell responsible for ..

@jwildeboer

• OFC that is not per-se "#Tivolization" but merely a convenient minimal setup for #SelfHosting…

And? This is a good time to remind people the decentralized nature of the Fedi and the ease of switching Mastodon accounts to another instance (even a non-Mastodon instance in some cases) means you can avoid DDoS attacks on the bigger instances by switching to a smaller one.

Preferably one where the other users and Mods are more in-tune with your mindset and preferences.

IMHO large instances like dot social are not in keeping with the ethos of the Fedi.

Figured the admins had enough headaches and they did not need users constantly refreshing.

Also, posted a thank you to the admins.

All is well.

Because mastodon.

#fediverse #mastodonsocial

#Deltachat rules and becomes an option as long as normal people (DAU) install the APP, get asked for their email credentials, and yes even if those are gmail or hotmail, and become protected by the brute force of encryption.
full stop

In any case we are facing the same discussions we see (saw) with mastodon adoption or https.

There is only one main constitutional rule wen it comes to deal with the masses:
#KISS!

Looks to me that the @delta crew went down the rabbit hole of specialization talking to each other about the extreme needs of extreme cases, maybe even exposed to some new version of some CIA\KGB handbook ..
@kkarhan @jwildeboer

I think it was more about not wanting to moderate and esp. not wanting to comply with anti-hatespeech requirements and all...

You know your typical US bigtech liability deflection...

For me it looked like the back door interference with free speech in the arab spring made the twitter guru realize that only decentralization could lead to real free speech that ultimately has the goal of "power to the people".

The problem is that "power to the people" means being able to let loose in the first place, and for some (strange) reason there sleeps a Frodo in all of us (apparently).

So, sitting at the same ALL IN table in the restaurant at the end of the silicon valley one way street just makes you hear and feel the same things and vibes again and again, until they become true.
(for them, in their minds, their beings, their Idiocracyscale of their top ten most important people voted by their #TimeZeitGeistStream)