<![CDATA[#TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :)]]> hashtags in are diacritic agnostic, so and are the same 🙂

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/e5f858ae-8e08-4b2c-ae50-3984881d0f27/til-hashtags-in-activitypub-are-diacritic-agnostic-so-vélo-and-velo-are-the-sameRSS for NodeThu, 14 May 2026 23:24:00 GMTThu, 30 Apr 2026 16:56:40 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 20:07:54 GMT]]>@richlv @klu9 ok, define "soft', because once I tried two ucranians to teach me Ь and they just kept repeating "soft" 🙂

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://en.osm.town/users/mdione/statuses/116495461540142944https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://en.osm.town/users/mdione/statuses/116495461540142944Thu, 30 Apr 2026 20:07:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 18:56:56 GMT]]>@mdione @klu9 Ah, got it. I think I got it. We don't have special names for letters with diacritics, so that was a bit confusing 🙂

So "ā" is "long a", "č" is "soft c" etc.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/richlv/statuses/116495182508104968https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/richlv/statuses/116495182508104968Thu, 30 Apr 2026 18:56:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 18:09:15 GMT]]>@richlv @klu9 this makes no sense, but:

* ñ is considered a whole Spanish letter, has it's own name and sound.
* á is not, it's even pronounced just like a, but the diacritic changes where you stress the word.
* ch and ll used to be their own letters (and places in the alphabet), but no more. But they have their own sound. They're spelled as c+h and l+l.

So the question was whether č is considered another letter o just a c with a ˇ, even if it has it's own sound; same for ā.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://en.osm.town/users/mdione/statuses/116494994966561409https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://en.osm.town/users/mdione/statuses/116494994966561409Thu, 30 Apr 2026 18:09:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 18:00:38 GMT]]>@mdione @klu9 Not sure I got the question/topic, could you please clarify?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/richlv/statuses/116494961122624483https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/richlv/statuses/116494961122624483Thu, 30 Apr 2026 18:00:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:59:35 GMT]]>@richlv @klu9 I wonder č and ā have their own names (like "eñe", which becomes a different name because it's pronounced differently from "ene") or are just "letter with diacritic". I have the impression that č is, but ā is not.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://en.osm.town/users/mdione/statuses/116494956982599905https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://en.osm.town/users/mdione/statuses/116494956982599905Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:59:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:53:25 GMT]]>@richlv @mdione

Although I've yet to find a computing system that treats J as "just an I with a swash at the bottom".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swash_(typography)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/klu9/statuses/116494932758358773https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/klu9/statuses/116494932758358773Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:53:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:47:33 GMT]]>@klu9 @mdione Diacritic technically is the additional marking.
Often shortened to mean "a character with a diacritic".
Such letters often are considered separate letters on their own (like Latvian āšņūžčēļī etc), but they can still be recognised as "a with a diacritic mark on top of it".

As in, yes, agreed, and these concepts are not opposite, they don't contradict one another 🙂

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/richlv/statuses/116494909677255500https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/richlv/statuses/116494909677255500Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:47:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:47:11 GMT]]>@klu9 @richlv yes, because from a computer point of view, a ñ is a n with a ~ diacritic 🙂

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://en.osm.town/users/mdione/statuses/116494908203747193https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://en.osm.town/users/mdione/statuses/116494908203747193Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:47:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:45:50 GMT]]>@mdione @richlv

It seems (or at least ) treats n & ñ the same in hashtags

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/klu9/statuses/116494902930086411https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/klu9/statuses/116494902930086411Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:45:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:43:34 GMT]]>@mdione @richlv

Hmmm, I wonder: diacritic... in whose opinion? Anglophones consider Ñ an N with a diacritic. Hispanophones consider Ñ its own distinct letter.

Let me try & see what happens

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/klu9/statuses/116494893978389856https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/klu9/statuses/116494893978389856Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:43:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:38:53 GMT]]>@richlv yes, this was in the context of me wanting to write HTvélo and Masto offering HTvelo.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://en.osm.town/users/mdione/statuses/116494875584639676https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://en.osm.town/users/mdione/statuses/116494875584639676Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:38:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to #TIL hashtags in #ActivityPub are diacritic agnostic, so #vélo and #velo are the same :) on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:32:38 GMT]]>@mdione But diacritics make them more visually appealing and readable 🙂

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/richlv/statuses/116494850990933034https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/richlv/statuses/116494850990933034Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:32:38 GMT