https://shows.acast.com/canadaland/episodes/6a027bd792e9663a6fb9f19e

There's a spot where he's asked specifically about dealing with Trump and CUSMA, which I shared with a Liberal friend due to this being a top of mind issue for them (admittedly, they won't be convinced, and oddly feel that Carney pursuing "deeper integration" into the USA is somehow still "elbows up"; but, good to plant the seeds of a different viewpoint. The Carney Delusion can't last forever, I figure).

Link where Trump/CUSMA discussion begins:

https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/630ceae33fe37400122828c6/e/6a027bd792e9663a6fb9f19e/media.mp3#t=1169

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