<![CDATA[I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet.]]>RE: https://disabled.social/@MikeImBack/116420391595617233

I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. . . . it would require a 50% runway length extension to takeoff from Toronto City Center Island Airport. It can't operate on the gravel runways in Northern communities like a Dash-8 can, which costs $26M less.

My brother lives 1,000km North in a fly-in community. That's a 1:15 travel time in this jet, and 1:30 travel time in a Dash-8. A round-trip would burn about $10,000 in gas for this jet, and about $6,000 for the Dash-8.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/d0168c56-1ab9-4818-91f7-7278baeadfbe/i-d-like-to-share-a-few-fun-facts-about-this-30m-private-jet.RSS for NodeSat, 18 Apr 2026 16:41:03 GMTFri, 17 Apr 2026 18:05:20 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 20:10:49 GMT]]>@oration 2100km, still pretty short for a CL-650. Maybe Ford is planning to drum up bidness in Dakar or Zagreb or Rio? Maybe he's planning to flee to Moscow.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cosocial.ca/users/johnefrancis/statuses/116421862975382731https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cosocial.ca/users/johnefrancis/statuses/116421862975382731Fri, 17 Apr 2026 20:10:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 20:00:26 GMT]]>@johnefrancis Example recent trip: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-texas-trip-9.7145909

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421822181687523https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421822181687523Fri, 17 Apr 2026 20:00:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:59:00 GMT]]>@oration Sudbury, Sault St. Marie...still...it's a plane with 7500km range, 14 passengers, and needs 6500ft to takeoff... where TF in the US does Ford expect to be flying it? California? Toronto-Washington is 850km.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cosocial.ca/users/johnefrancis/statuses/116421816516617919https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cosocial.ca/users/johnefrancis/statuses/116421816516617919Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:59:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:47:48 GMT]]>@z3r0fox - The island airport runway is currently 1,216m in length. The Challenger 650 requires 1,720m, and Canadian regulations require an additional 900m of safety extension at each end of a jet runway.

The island runway would have to grow from 1,216m to a minimum of 3,520m for a Challenger 650 to safely operate.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421772445263357https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421772445263357Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:47:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:42:32 GMT]]>@z3r0fox I do not believe that his currently-proposed runway extension will be extensive enough to extend for this particular jet, I do not think he is that good at planning.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421751794613447https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421751794613447Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:42:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:38:29 GMT]]>@crispius We definitely need that!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://jasette.facil.services/users/jerome/statuses/116421735843900373https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://jasette.facil.services/users/jerome/statuses/116421735843900373Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:38:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:37:15 GMT]]>@oration Ahh, is this why he wants the island airport expanded

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/z3r0fox/statuses/116421730975493564https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/z3r0fox/statuses/116421730975493564Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:37:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:22:09 GMT]]>@crispius @renata @elonjet @ZuckJet - I have already filled out the Google Form for that Ground Control team

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421671589664623https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421671589664623Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:22:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:16:04 GMT]]>@renata
I wonder if the folks behind @elonjet or @ZuckJet might be able to help with that? 🤔

@oration

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.fname.ca/ap/users/115918273288342322/statuses/116421647677608502https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.fname.ca/ap/users/115918273288342322/statuses/116421647677608502Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:16:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:15:27 GMT]]>@oration Air Creebec is an amazing name. I love it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tenforward.social/users/Routhinator/statuses/116421645274198569https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tenforward.social/users/Routhinator/statuses/116421645274198569Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:15:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:58:36 GMT]]>@oration @renata @JxckS I vote for the name "Doug Ford's Gravy Plane".

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/WTL/statuses/116421579019678373https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/WTL/statuses/116421579019678373Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:58:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:55:31 GMT]]>@renata I'm confident that @JxckS will take care of this in due course.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421566889957565https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421566889957565Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:55:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:50:11 GMT]]>@oration Great investigation

Now all we need is to keep track of what is he really doing with his 30M toy because plane tracking is public info

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cosocial.ca/ap/users/115917562441496033/statuses/116421545890821619https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cosocial.ca/ap/users/115917562441496033/statuses/116421545890821619Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:50:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:42:35 GMT]]>@renata - That importation flight to Pearson was then followed by a test flight to Sudbury, you can track the plane at https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=c002d5&lat=41.803&lon=-77.736&zoom=6.4&showTrace=2026-04-15&trackLabels

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421516024329384https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421516024329384Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:42:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:40:55 GMT]]>@tezoatlipoca @renata I'm willing to bet that his jet is C-FBBW - legally owned by charter company ACASS Canada Ltd: https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/saf-sec-sur/2/ccarcs-riacc/ADet.aspx?id=527669

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421509460172883https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421509460172883Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:40:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:39:31 GMT]]>@renata Bombardier only made two Challenger 650s in Canada that are still legally registered to be flown by Canadian pilots: C-GZUM and C-FBBW.

C-GZUM doesn't match the news description, since it's been in operation by Skyservice in Montreal for 6 years and the news is reporting that Doug's jet was bought from a South American and recently imported.

C-FBBW was imported and registered in Canada by ACASS on 2026-04-10 and it first flew to Canada (Pearson) with that registration on 2026-04-15.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421503985246766https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421503985246766Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:39:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:35:45 GMT]]>@oration @renata the province COULD put the jet up for use on a fractonal jet sharing platform like NetJets or whatever, but then the counter argument is why does the province need to absorb the capital outlay and why not just get Ford and entourage NetJets memberships?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/tezoatlipoca/statuses/116421489150043067https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/tezoatlipoca/statuses/116421489150043067Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:35:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:29:11 GMT]]>@renata I never believe his stated reasons for things, but you're right that his stated reason is allegedly to visit the US and fight tariffs, which is hopefully a temporary need and temporary needs do not justify this kind of capital expenditure.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421463360118776https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421463360118776Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:29:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:20:38 GMT]]>@oration He did not buy it to travel Ontario.

Wouldn’t it suck if someone started tracking the plane’s tailsign and published every single trip it did on a page for everyone to see?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cosocial.ca/ap/users/115917562441496033/statuses/116421429686131524https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cosocial.ca/ap/users/115917562441496033/statuses/116421429686131524Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:20:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:15:34 GMT]]>Ontario airports with runways that can handle a Challenger 650: Pearson, Ottawa, Hamilton, North Bay, Windsor, Thunder Bay, and *maybe* Timmins with the right winds and weather.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421409798723347https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421409798723347Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:15:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:12:58 GMT]]>Indigenous-owned Air Creebec already owns 20 Dash-8s and I'm sure would be delighted to offer a very affordable charter contract to the province in order to pimp one up for VIP travel and dedicate it to the province just like CargoJet pimped up one of their 767s for Drake.

But. . . . Doug Ford might still be stinging from his 2019 scandal where he wanted to spend $50k pimping up an OPP Sprinter van for his official road trips.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421399587988817https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421399587988817Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:12:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'd like to share a few fun facts about this $30M private jet. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:08:35 GMT]]>But, my brother's fly-in community's airport would have to double their runway length and also pave it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421382341166634https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/oration/statuses/116421382341166634Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:08:35 GMT