<![CDATA[Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem?]]>Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/bd3bc574-cfff-4956-a9f2-a6d6f29b42cb/of-the-following-two-alignments-which-one-is-worse-that-is...-which-is-a-greater-problemRSS for NodeFri, 05 Jun 2026 15:56:22 GMTSat, 23 May 2026 12:03:26 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sun, 24 May 2026 10:15:02 GMT]]>@futurebird I feel like Lawful Evil just uses Chaotic Evil for its own purposes and hides behind it. Lawful Evil folks are like... the architects of destruction, herding the chaotic evil minions around until they aren't useful anymore and then saying "hey, it wasn't me..."

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://supervolcano.angryshark.eu/users/grrrr_shark/statuses/116629025719818524https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://supervolcano.angryshark.eu/users/grrrr_shark/statuses/116629025719818524Sun, 24 May 2026 10:15:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sun, 24 May 2026 01:55:25 GMT]]>@futurebird CE occurs on the backside of many a technical object. Try turning over a keyboard, phone, laptop, network switch, wifi router, etc, etc. Says something, perhaps.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/llewelly/statuses/116627061163451441https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/llewelly/statuses/116627061163451441Sun, 24 May 2026 01:55:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sun, 24 May 2026 01:47:49 GMT]]>@futurebird it's the CE I fear. It's the CEO. But of couruse the LEO is worse.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/llewelly/statuses/116627031284020986https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/llewelly/statuses/116627031284020986Sun, 24 May 2026 01:47:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 23:52:05 GMT]]>@foolishowl @futurebird https://cosocial.ca/users/mhoye/statuses/116623832198275572
"Lawful Good" (Lawful Evil)]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://yourwalls.today/objects/eef2e78f-9c8e-4fb5-888c-f6d6cdf62f24https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://yourwalls.today/objects/eef2e78f-9c8e-4fb5-888c-f6d6cdf62f24Sat, 23 May 2026 23:52:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 23:49:12 GMT]]>@futurebird @kkarhan @mhoye @darius it could also be the character versus the player

(i don't think there's a bright line between these two framings)

the range between "CG"(LE) and "LE"(TN) is basically the underlying morality of all the stuff i write that's worth posting...]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://yourwalls.today/objects/32793e4f-459e-4127-ad42-ff13fe0a1a24https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://yourwalls.today/objects/32793e4f-459e-4127-ad42-ff13fe0a1a24Sat, 23 May 2026 23:49:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 23:46:28 GMT]]>@mhoye @futurebird @darius it's my favourite alignment chart ever and it's on the strength of it that i'm choosing CE in the poll]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://yourwalls.today/objects/0ca28739-ff01-425a-b8b0-c061bc9ac651https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://yourwalls.today/objects/0ca28739-ff01-425a-b8b0-c061bc9ac651Sat, 23 May 2026 23:46:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 20:34:56 GMT]]>@futurebird @mhoye @darius I think there is a theory somewhere that most players in a CRPG (and other video games, too) can be characterised as being Neutral Evil. For instance, the LG paladin player with maximum reputation points who still breaks into people's houses to steal their valuables. It's fascinating to think about.

And having the best reputation gives the best store prices. So there's selfish motivation to reach that. Etc.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/merms/statuses/116625800983303734https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/merms/statuses/116625800983303734Sat, 23 May 2026 20:34:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 19:10:18 GMT]]>
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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fedicy.us.to/cy/p/1779563418.503693https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fedicy.us.to/cy/p/1779563418.503693Sat, 23 May 2026 19:10:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:22:18 GMT]]>@futurebird depends. With the right type of structure, lawful evil individuals can be restrained. But once you get too many of them and they organize, watch out.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/KanaMauna/statuses/116625279458503342https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/KanaMauna/statuses/116625279458503342Sat, 23 May 2026 18:22:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 16:59:08 GMT]]>@futurebird @mhoye @darius As I understand it, the alignment system was invented by Dave Arneson trying to deal with a problem player at his table.

I used to say that every D&D player I knew would argue that the alignment system doesn't make sense, but it would almost make sense if... And this would lead to a heated argument.

Computer RPGs used to insist on some version of the game rating your actions as good or evil. I remember people condemning Elder Scrolls: Morrowind as "postmodernist" because it doesn't do that.

I can't think of a TTRPG other than D&D (and its retroclones) with anything like a formal alignment system.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/foolishowl/statuses/116624952418816401https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/foolishowl/statuses/116624952418816401Sat, 23 May 2026 16:59:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 15:48:58 GMT]]>@foolishowl

oh dear

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116624676498823510https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116624676498823510Sat, 23 May 2026 15:48:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 15:37:08 GMT]]>@futurebird One of the scary things about conservative Evangelicals is that more than one has told me that the worst thing about D&D is that they believe "Lawful Evil" is a contradiction in terms.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/foolishowl/statuses/116624630000159488https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/foolishowl/statuses/116624630000159488Sat, 23 May 2026 15:37:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 15:37:07 GMT]]>@futurebird @mhoye @darius I'm curious about what would go in true neutral

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/ghosttie/statuses/116624629942946669https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/ghosttie/statuses/116624629942946669Sat, 23 May 2026 15:37:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 15:29:31 GMT]]>@mhoye @futurebird @darius I played around with some ideas for a three-axis alignment chart a couple years back on my previous account: https://tenforward.social/@bruceiv/111088653550048791

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tenforward.social/ap/users/116241480982805206/statuses/116624600061009638https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tenforward.social/ap/users/116241480982805206/statuses/116624600061009638Sat, 23 May 2026 15:29:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 14:37:02 GMT]]>@futurebird
haha, brilliant! Thanks.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ecoevo.social/users/HansZauner/statuses/116624393665661282https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ecoevo.social/users/HansZauner/statuses/116624393665661282Sat, 23 May 2026 14:37:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 14:35:57 GMT]]>@futurebird @mhoye @darius

I have to admit, I'm not a huge fan of the alignment system due to how unintuitive it is.

The basic axis - good/evil - is so straightforward altruistic/egoistic, that you hardly need a system for it.

Everything else seems to overcomplicate things.

To me, the distinction between chaotic and neutral doen't seem well defined. Both ignore social rules and expectations? ... ok.

And this "neutral" between good and evil seems this "I don't care about anything" aspect

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://rollenspiel.social/users/billiglarper/statuses/116624389414513763https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://rollenspiel.social/users/billiglarper/statuses/116624389414513763Sat, 23 May 2026 14:35:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 14:00:53 GMT]]>@HansZauner

i gotchu fam

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Attached: 1 image @u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ing I think if I made this alignment chart every singe day for a year every chart would be different. The most interesting ant on this chart is Tetramorium atratulum... a remarkable social parasite of pavement ants (Tetramorium species too!) These ants have no workers! They just have queens who latch themselves on to a queen in a productive Tetramorium colony and lay eggs that are cared for by their hosts. They kind of creep me out!

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116624251532289033https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116624251532289033Sat, 23 May 2026 14:00:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 13:52:48 GMT]]>@futurebird
Or are all ants just "Lawful Good"?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ecoevo.social/users/HansZauner/statuses/116624219706870275https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ecoevo.social/users/HansZauner/statuses/116624219706870275Sat, 23 May 2026 13:52:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 13:51:08 GMT]]>@futurebird

Would it be feasible to assign an ant species for each category, I wonder? 🤔

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ecoevo.social/users/HansZauner/statuses/116624213186376394https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ecoevo.social/users/HansZauner/statuses/116624213186376394Sat, 23 May 2026 13:51:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 13:38:52 GMT]]>@cocaine_owlbear @mhoye @darius

Not at all!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116624164956117543https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116624164956117543Sat, 23 May 2026 13:38:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 13:38:33 GMT]]>@futurebird @mhoye @darius that is an excellent chart. Would you mind if I borrowed it for my game group?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retro.pizza/users/cocaine_owlbear/statuses/116624163672928815https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retro.pizza/users/cocaine_owlbear/statuses/116624163672928815Sat, 23 May 2026 13:38:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 13:17:36 GMT]]>@distrowatch

A problem for the quality of the experience as a story for everyone.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116624081337863922https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116624081337863922Sat, 23 May 2026 13:17:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 13:16:16 GMT]]>@futurebird Problem for whom? Other players, the DM, characters in the campaign?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/distrowatch/statuses/116624076051395015https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/distrowatch/statuses/116624076051395015Sat, 23 May 2026 13:16:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Of the following two alignments which one is "worse" that is... which is a greater problem? on Sat, 23 May 2026 13:07:35 GMT]]>Is this about the two US parties?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mrkeen/statuses/116624041959932174https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mrkeen/statuses/116624041959932174Sat, 23 May 2026 13:07:35 GMT