In my experience they often deride the WHO and prefer the pseudoscience of SEGM et al. Unfortunately those groups are now infesting formerly reputable organisations.

@autisticplushy

Self determination and informed consent are all that ought to matter. But for those like my wife... Appeal to Authority might do the trick.

Unfortunately I was getting ready to go grocery shopping, and also we now have major psyhciactric organisations shifting to a gender critical POV, including platforming exclusively TERFs on panels discussing trans healthcare.

So nowadays I go to the top, and then drill down.

@nowwhat @orange

> This reflects current knowledge that trans-related and gender diverse identities are not conditions of mental ill-health, and that classifying them as such can cause enormous stigma.

> This reflects current knowledge that trans-related and gender diverse identities are not conditions of mental ill-health, and that classifying them as such can cause enormous stigma.

It is no longer a mental illness. Under ICD11 Gender Dysphoria has been removed and therefore no longer exists as an illness. It has been replaced with Gender Incongruence as a place holder for other physological conditions which may be co-morbid or present atypically in trans people.

Gender dysphoria exists, but it is a symptom of the way we are treated by society.

It's a cold, objective summary of the topic that's much more useful than the DSM because it considers expertise from all of medicine - not just psychiatry.

Gender incongruence and transgender health in the ICD

(www.who.int)

I would look at what sources her talking points refer to, how they are rated by other scientists, and where they get their funding.

Being rational, statistically, delaying the onset of puberty can save so many people's lives. Vs. Having a preconceived notion that trans people are wrong and therefore being convinced by anti-trans disinformation. See https://commonslibrary.org/the-anti-trans-movement/

The well documented and medically proven treatment for gender dysphoria is transition. So if she wants to pity and treat us, that is how it’s done.

You could go the harm reduction route, where the harm of a trans person living their life is much less than the harm applied to trans people who are refused transition.

You could go the “the laws that target trans people also effect cis people” which might be helpful.

I haven’t watched this yet, but I everything I’ve watched from Philosophy tube has been really good. Generally well sourced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S5w18sjYLk

people use "rationality" and intelectuality to deny the validity of equally rational arguments and that is the basis of any supremacist school of thought

The rhetorical appeal to emotion likely won't play as she's being serious and rational about it, unfortunately.

btw, i would tag cw this as "transphobia, help needed, hate speech"