<![CDATA[The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is.]]>RE: https://flipboard.com/@futurism/futurism-1lupih3cz/-/a-hWRkyR9zQFuooBpWKGziAw%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is.

“We didn’t conduct a poll, we just asked GPT or whatever to make up things people would say and then sampled that”

My dudes. No.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/a82026e7-ba61-4076-863e-13c4ffb96ec4/the-remarks-from-the-expert-in-this-article-even-as-critical-as-they-are-grossly-understate-just-how-foolish-and-messed-up-this-is.RSS for NodeWed, 15 Apr 2026 00:46:07 GMTSun, 12 Apr 2026 02:11:01 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:17:53 GMT]]>@inthehands fair point, this is likely a case of AI slop (and questionable marketing)!

But "obviously a terrible alternative"? As far as I'm concerned it sounds like a pretty reasonable thing to try.

And, It might even work quite well, but only for an LLM trained without RLHF, instruction tuning, and big tech putting their hands on it. The bias there would be from the data distribution (same problem they have in the old method, "who picks up the phone?")

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115904596506225354/statuses/116390276215740504https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115904596506225354/statuses/116390276215740504Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:17:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:05:44 GMT]]>THANK you. @inthehands I have been arguing with a classmate for weeks about them using "synthetic" data for transportation class. Ugh. I know I get a little incoherent with anger about AI stuff, but I do not think we should be doing statistical analysis of made-up data. We can have actual data, if we just do a little work to get it. UGH.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.wrong.tools/users/crystalvisits/statuses/116390228456642893https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.wrong.tools/users/crystalvisits/statuses/116390228456642893Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:05:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 05:31:15 GMT]]>@inthehands

It took Koch Network decades to achieve "corporate personhood" with Citizens United.

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If Corporations Are People, They Should Act Like It

Companies deserve many of the same rights as citizens, but must also shoulder the same responsibilities.

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Just a moment...

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(inthesetimes.com)

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When Did Companies Become People? Excavating The Legal Evolution

The Supreme Court has been granting more rights to corporations, including some regarded as those solely for individuals. But Nina Totenberg finds the company-to-person shift has a long history.

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Corporations can outvote real people.

What happens when "AI personhood" is achieved & also outvotes real people?

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Technological advances will bring social upheaval. How will we treat digital minds, and how will they treat us?

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Taking the "AI Personhood" Debate Seriously

Does this GPU have a soul?

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What happens when fake AI voters are purchased in bulk by Putin?
https://medium.com/intuitionmachine/the-dangers-of-artificial-intelligence-is-unavoidable-due-to-flaws-of-human-civilization-f9c131e65e5e

What happens when women, Immigrants, POC, & LGBTQ become non-people?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Npars01/statuses/116390092860392463https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Npars01/statuses/116390092860392463Sun, 12 Apr 2026 05:31:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 04:50:28 GMT]]>@gnate @rjblaskiewicz @inthehands Entrail-based fortunetelling gets more complicated if the chicken ate tea leaves before it died.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/users/msbellows/statuses/116389932435071879https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/users/msbellows/statuses/116389932435071879Sun, 12 Apr 2026 04:50:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 04:43:50 GMT]]>@inthehands there is no logic here. These people are just cultists.

from the Aaru about page: “Some of us are existentialists. Some of us believe we live in a simulation and it is our goal to prove it. All of us see our products as puzzle pieces to building whole world simulation.”

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hackers.town/users/cinebox/statuses/116389906411145299https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hackers.town/users/cinebox/statuses/116389906411145299Sun, 12 Apr 2026 04:43:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 04:35:43 GMT]]>@inthehands I prefer not to dissect animals to do my personal share of fortune telling.
Observing the flight of birds does not harm the environment and the analysis of it has the accuracy and potential of what is stored in my subconcius and my own filter of values.

And I'm serious. I whatch birds fly and ask myself, what does it tell me.

And at no point I doubt that this is less accurate than asking an llm.

I have to decide things anyways somehow to do what seems right to me.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://troet.cafe/users/sibylle/statuses/116389874481863212https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://troet.cafe/users/sibylle/statuses/116389874481863212Sun, 12 Apr 2026 04:35:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:47:41 GMT]]>@inthehands 97.5% of Jesuses wept, +/- 2%.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jwz/statuses/116389685584018196https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jwz/statuses/116389685584018196Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:47:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:35:15 GMT]]>@inthehands And not just statistics! I’ve also seen certain linguists and philosophers excited about the possibility of posing grammatical/ethical judgments to LLMs in bulk, apparently fully convinced that the results would hold any meaning or value whatsoever. Can’t wait for the smug “Trolley problem objectively solved” papers

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://localization.cafe/users/nosword/statuses/116389636699647114https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://localization.cafe/users/nosword/statuses/116389636699647114Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:35:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:31:19 GMT]]>@inthehands This is just a fancy new way of making shit up.

Publishing fabricated polls as if they were legit, is called "fraud".

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sfba.social/users/jbayes/statuses/116389621209399082https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sfba.social/users/jbayes/statuses/116389621209399082Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:31:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:30:28 GMT]]>@inthehands Thank you kindly.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hackers.town/users/drwho/statuses/116389617893721273https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hackers.town/users/drwho/statuses/116389617893721273Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:30:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:26:11 GMT]]>@drwho
Any time

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/inthehands/statuses/116389601049571119https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/inthehands/statuses/116389601049571119Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:26:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:25:04 GMT]]>@inthehands Can I quote you on that?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hackers.town/users/drwho/statuses/116389596668313197https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hackers.town/users/drwho/statuses/116389596668313197Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:25:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:22:14 GMT]]>@inthehands @mastodonmigration @Futurism

I think polls should all include the question:

Did you find any of these questions leading?

And be required to publish that result next to any results along with those that commissioned, paid for, the poll.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Chancerubbage/statuses/116389585516281279https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Chancerubbage/statuses/116389585516281279Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:22:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:19:15 GMT]]>@inthehands

Next it will be asking LLMs what voters would choose and just going with that. No need for elections.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/mastodonmigration/statuses/116389573775905698https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/mastodonmigration/statuses/116389573775905698Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:19:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:14:45 GMT]]>@inthehands FFS

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://m.ai6yr.org/users/ai6yr/statuses/116389556082614555https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://m.ai6yr.org/users/ai6yr/statuses/116389556082614555Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:14:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:10:59 GMT]]>@inthehands that was so you couldn't tell if they were stabbing their own face or yours

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://bayes.club/users/wronglang/statuses/116389541268398235https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://bayes.club/users/wronglang/statuses/116389541268398235Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:10:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:09:29 GMT]]>@inthehands they were never looking for a survey methodology, they were looking for a beard!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://bayes.club/users/wronglang/statuses/116389535359756918https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://bayes.club/users/wronglang/statuses/116389535359756918Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:09:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:08:49 GMT]]>@wronglang
But see they juggled the knives first!

They •juggled• them, Krzysztof

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/inthehands/statuses/116389532739937984https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/inthehands/statuses/116389532739937984Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:08:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:06:27 GMT]]>@inthehands emphasis on the through face stabbing

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://bayes.club/users/wronglang/statuses/116389523476647402https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://bayes.club/users/wronglang/statuses/116389523476647402Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:06:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 02:46:33 GMT]]>(The underlying logic here is that LLMs embed biases, so you take advantage of that fact by prompting an LLM to take on a spectrum of different demographic biases that correspond to population demographics, then ask the LLM a polling question in the context of each of those demographically weighted biases.

So yeah, from my OP it might sound like they’re replacing polling with stabbing themselves in the face, but •actually• they’re juggling a bunch of knives and •then• stabbing themselves in the face.)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/inthehands/statuses/116389445230708456https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/inthehands/statuses/116389445230708456Sun, 12 Apr 2026 02:46:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 02:43:34 GMT]]>@inthehands this is not the first time I've seen this. I recall someone making claims about how social media design choices influence user behavior based on a LLM simulation of social media.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.science/users/adamr/statuses/116389433495525457https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.science/users/adamr/statuses/116389433495525457Sun, 12 Apr 2026 02:43:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 02:37:16 GMT]]>@gnate @rjblaskiewicz
Ha, nice. I am now going to start using the phrase “offal data” for this kind of thing

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/inthehands/statuses/116389408709075245https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/inthehands/statuses/116389408709075245Sun, 12 Apr 2026 02:37:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 02:35:19 GMT]]>@rjblaskiewicz @inthehands
It's just offal.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/gnate/statuses/116389401046411831https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/gnate/statuses/116389401046411831Sun, 12 Apr 2026 02:35:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The remarks from the expert in this article, even as critical as they are, grossly understate just how foolish and messed up this is. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 02:28:50 GMT]]>OK, I looked at it in slightly more detail, and yes, my OP is basically a correct summary of what they’re doing.

Statistical Jesus wept.

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