<![CDATA[You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡]]>You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡

Meanwhile, the genie is only kept out of the bottle by the force of literally the entirety of the world's available investment capital

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/a3a86993-0db7-4826-b206-d5d734e06773/you-can-t-put-the-genie-back-in-the-bottleRSS for NodeFri, 15 May 2026 01:55:30 GMTMon, 11 May 2026 06:11:37 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Tue, 12 May 2026 06:34:47 GMT]]>@RedFacedUakari @jenniferplusplus @cairobraga There are definitely a bunch of co-op incubators out there, for example: https://belovedcommunityincubator.org/

I don't know of any neighborhood tech co-ops, but people's interest in switching away from big tech providers is pretty high right now, so I believe there is hope at least for many small tech co-ops to succeed even if they couldn't yet make a living doing tech infrastructure & support for literally just their neighborhood.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/slowenough/statuses/116560211961044419https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/slowenough/statuses/116560211961044419Tue, 12 May 2026 06:34:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Tue, 12 May 2026 05:41:35 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus I look at it like the blockchain, and NFT crazes we went through. Those genies are still out of the bottle but it doesn't occupy too much attention any more.

I worked at an AI startup for a while (I needed a job) and the CEO cited both those periods for his current company.

I think AI might have more staying power as it can be used (for good and bad) by regular folks, but I think the bubble is busting open soon enough. That job I had showed me that the market isn't there.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://dice.camp/users/Sablebadger/statuses/116560002793924035https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://dice.camp/users/Sablebadger/statuses/116560002793924035Tue, 12 May 2026 05:41:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Tue, 12 May 2026 04:56:46 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus
It is a lot like the industrial revolution: depressing wages, degrading working conditions, and destroying the environment

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://bigshoulders.city/users/wakingrufus/statuses/116559826564870167https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://bigshoulders.city/users/wakingrufus/statuses/116559826564870167Tue, 12 May 2026 04:56:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Tue, 12 May 2026 04:45:28 GMT]]>Anyway, AI fans keep claiming that AI is like the industrial revolution, and yeah, it is. But somehow, for some reason, people broadly view that as a good thing. But it wasn't. It was this. It's the thing I just described, but for physical goods. And now they're coming after art, and science, and correspondence, and law, and medicine, and bookkeeping, and it is incomprehensible to me that anyone at all would be in favor of this

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/116559782097271114https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/116559782097271114Tue, 12 May 2026 04:45:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Tue, 12 May 2026 02:32:46 GMT]]>@joshuaelliott @jenniferplusplus The "garden rake" effect of GenAI technologies is something to behold. I literally cannot use LLMs in particular for serious computer science applications without engaging in the same prompt/context/temperature adjustment boondoggles, even if I do, I'm up against proprietary system prompting and token burn, and it's a distraction from my actual work. I could just pivot to deep learning but down that road leads future serfdom.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116559260337484278https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116559260337484278Tue, 12 May 2026 02:32:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Tue, 12 May 2026 02:30:53 GMT]]>@joshuaelliott @jenniferplusplus The GPT has been weaponized. The noosphere is under assault. The contingency must be handled. The consequences are potentially species ending. AGI and ASI are fantasies here -- the true adversaries are human. The really sad part is that the technology isn't even fit for purpose, but the market fundamentalist vs state capitalist factions are using it to engage in what is a noospheric hot war. The Potemkin effect in mass media: Total Information Warfare.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116559252919925814https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116559252919925814Tue, 12 May 2026 02:30:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Tue, 12 May 2026 02:14:29 GMT]]>@slowenough @jenniferplusplus @cairobraga I love the idea of neighborhood IT co-ops. Fo any actually exist? Are there resources to help set this sort of thing up?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116188744984614693/statuses/116559188447418643https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116188744984614693/statuses/116559188447418643Tue, 12 May 2026 02:14:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 22:43:10 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus This thread is 🔥

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/chrisjrn/statuses/116558357503278986https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/chrisjrn/statuses/116558357503278986Mon, 11 May 2026 22:43:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 19:22:43 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus you know, that's a good point. I'll remember that next time someone says that to me in "meatspace"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/danschnau/statuses/116557569305463308https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/danschnau/statuses/116557569305463308Mon, 11 May 2026 19:22:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 16:56:18 GMT]]>@alter_kaker how do small language models that can be run locally or self hosted factor into this?

They don't change anything at all about the power dynamics. They don't change anything at all about whether you can do or economically benefit from work that capitalists disapprove of. What they do is distract people who are concerned about those facts, and make everyone else spend time explaining to them that they don't actually change the political situation at all.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/116556993558881944https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/116556993558881944Mon, 11 May 2026 16:56:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 16:50:20 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus I'm sorry, I don't understand

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/alter_kaker/statuses/116556970109055940https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/alter_kaker/statuses/116556970109055940Mon, 11 May 2026 16:50:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 16:10:29 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus @cairobraga Apple has run out of most Mac Studio and Mini models because there are so many people who understand this, and do not wish to be subservient to the cloud any longer. Silver lining: Another crack at a world where every household as a decent server and every neighborhood has a small tech geeks co-op to steward them.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/slowenough/statuses/116556813386164262https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/slowenough/statuses/116556813386164262Mon, 11 May 2026 16:10:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 15:11:50 GMT]]>>> ditch...all together

I hope this will happen, and personally plan for it, too.

Once the total surveillance will come, that is currently masked as "age verification", I think I'll just stop using >95% of the online world. Will I shed some tears ? Maybe yes, but on the other hand it will be so much fun to build local networks again, and to open up new spaces which are not controlled by this unholy government/bigtech melange. Kind of like the 90s.

@architektdiewelt @jenniferplusplus

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.world/users/crabby/statuses/116556582799641096https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.world/users/crabby/statuses/116556582799641096Mon, 11 May 2026 15:11:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 14:51:45 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus this is one of those statements that sounds hyperbolic but really isn't 🫠

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://indieweb.social/users/McNeely/statuses/116556503827199279https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://indieweb.social/users/McNeely/statuses/116556503827199279Mon, 11 May 2026 14:51:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 14:25:19 GMT]]>@alter_kaker mostly by recruiting people who should know better to defend the AI project, it seems

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/116556399874668826https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/116556399874668826Mon, 11 May 2026 14:25:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 14:21:55 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus how do small language models that can be run locally or self hosted factor into this? Perhaps they represent tools that can still be controlled locally rather than by large investors.

Counter arguments:
1. They still need to be trained
2. Hardware prices are rising, hardware capable of running even small models may become out of reach

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/alter_kaker/statuses/116556386495562906https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/alter_kaker/statuses/116556386495562906Mon, 11 May 2026 14:21:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 12:34:55 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus well said

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/fbulow/statuses/116555965766454132https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/fbulow/statuses/116555965766454132Mon, 11 May 2026 12:34:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 12:02:16 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus this is such a good description of what I've been thinking too, but couldn't figure out how to put into words

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://westmichigan.social/ap/users/116267205824416529/statuses/116555837348047933https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://westmichigan.social/ap/users/116267205824416529/statuses/116555837348047933Mon, 11 May 2026 12:02:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 11:57:10 GMT]]>@architektdiewelt @jenniferplusplus
my growing numbers of homeless friends have wire snips and contractor bags full of zebra mussels.

oh, and one more thing:
they have nothing left to lose.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/sparky57/statuses/116555817315750917https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/sparky57/statuses/116555817315750917Mon, 11 May 2026 11:57:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 11:32:13 GMT]]>@SmartmanApps @jenniferplusplus

It is a funny metaphor, because all it takes to put a genie back in a bottle is three wishes.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://spore.social/users/houba/statuses/116555719209874094https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://spore.social/users/houba/statuses/116555719209874094Mon, 11 May 2026 11:32:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 11:09:10 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus
Thanks for this, it's a very clear explanation.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/krnlg/statuses/116555628559999024https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/krnlg/statuses/116555628559999024Mon, 11 May 2026 11:09:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 10:03:33 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus
"You can't put the genie back in the bottle" - spoiler alert: it wasn't Jeannie anyway, but her evil sister!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://dotnet.social/users/SmartmanApps/statuses/116555370574600421https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://dotnet.social/users/SmartmanApps/statuses/116555370574600421Mon, 11 May 2026 10:03:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 09:32:20 GMT]]>@Brokar @jenniferplusplus surely in 10 years time the investors are not still burning all their money at the current rate because they've run out of money? And we're not building data centres at the current rate because can't power them?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://neopaquita.es/users/ehproque/statuses/116555247804656326https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://neopaquita.es/users/ehproque/statuses/116555247804656326Mon, 11 May 2026 09:32:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to You can't put the genie back in the bottle 🤡 on Mon, 11 May 2026 09:00:41 GMT]]>@jenniferplusplus I wouldn't compare AI with a genie rather than with Pandora's box because you won't get AI back into anything.

Not that AI is good or bad but too many companies and investors have pumped so much money into AI that it's about time to think of ROI.
AI is no charity even though one of the leading companies has Open in its name.

So, imo AI stays as long as the investors don't have their money back and it can take a long time until that happens. And then the earning starts.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Brokar/statuses/116555123381994735https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Brokar/statuses/116555123381994735Mon, 11 May 2026 09:00:41 GMT