<![CDATA[Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI.]]>Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/9f1926bf-4a73-4ab8-8beb-391aff957245/now-you-can-keep-track-of-how-many-billions-the-ai-companies-are-losing-on-ai.RSS for NodeMon, 25 May 2026 10:58:12 GMTSun, 24 May 2026 06:33:53 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 15:04:46 GMT]]>@dckim @MikeElgan Look up what MSB and CDO's are and then what happened in 2007. People and companies make financial decisions and not all of them will be good. Only time will tell whether AI was a good investment or not.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://noc.social/users/namedbird/statuses/116630165024745208https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://noc.social/users/namedbird/statuses/116630165024745208Sun, 24 May 2026 15:04:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:57:05 GMT]]>@only_ohm @MikeElgan big tech does not operate like a real business ruled by P&L, but more like an ancient prince who funds an alchemist and a theatre troupe out of the money his underlings extract (smaller VC tech operates like P.T. Barnum if his hicks were very rich men in California) https://www.bookandsword.com/resources/the-political-economy-of-american-tech-companies-since-2008/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/bookandswordblog/statuses/116630134793173103https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/bookandswordblog/statuses/116630134793173103Sun, 24 May 2026 14:57:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:54:14 GMT]]>@MikeElgan "Losing", or just moving around?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/jbaggs/statuses/116630123642879819https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/jbaggs/statuses/116630123642879819Sun, 24 May 2026 14:54:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:51:49 GMT]]>@nick_appleyard @MikeElgan I love how their “Enterprise Applications” are going to capture roughly 400% of the total worldwide IT spend. Can we please make fraud illegal again?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/pier/statuses/116630114129019451https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/pier/statuses/116630114129019451Sun, 24 May 2026 14:51:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:46:12 GMT]]>@MikeElgan Amazon lost the money that I (probably) won't be able to collect in my entire life within seconds. Good.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/freevolt24/statuses/116630092008318070https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/freevolt24/statuses/116630092008318070Sun, 24 May 2026 14:46:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:25:11 GMT]]>@MikeElgan

Money being what it is - an illusion controlled by the banks -

It is used to buy power over the quality of life of a certain group.

it does not matter how much 'money' ai is wasting: it is merely buying that inescapable power over other humans.

Power to starve, kill, maim, rape, enslave.

Slavers will pay ANY price to have that power.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Sassinake/statuses/116630009375908189https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Sassinake/statuses/116630009375908189Sun, 24 May 2026 14:25:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:21:39 GMT]]>@MikeElgan
The kicker will be when enough business’s and government are hooked on the AI kool-aid, the prices will go up even higher than the energy bills we already have to pay to keep the dystopia running.

Estamos bien jodidos, seems apposite.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/H4Heights/statuses/116629995517234327https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/H4Heights/statuses/116629995517234327Sun, 24 May 2026 14:21:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:21:12 GMT]]>@MikeElgan now do how many jobs they're generating

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/independentpen/statuses/116629993739233052https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/independentpen/statuses/116629993739233052Sun, 24 May 2026 14:21:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:20:18 GMT]]>@derderwish @sebastian @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan Also, these businesses providing AI are finally having to justify their non-profitability and AI is finally starting to get expensive. I can't see how these attacks can keep going in a sustainable way, right? Who will cover those costs, with which money? It seems to me AI already started the process of getting to the tail end of the Gartner Hype Cycle chart. And it can't get there fast enough.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629990157625857https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629990157625857Sun, 24 May 2026 14:20:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:19:34 GMT]]>@MikeElgan everyone is broke except nvidia apparently

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116622974850891210/statuses/116629987279904891https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116622974850891210/statuses/116629987279904891Sun, 24 May 2026 14:19:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:18:05 GMT]]>@MikeElgan This is needed

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116623682091327829/statuses/116629981431563653https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116623682091327829/statuses/116629981431563653Sun, 24 May 2026 14:18:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:15:21 GMT]]>@derderwish @sebastian @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan I mean, there has to be some way to deal with those attacks, right? First of all, small creators aren't targeted by that, right? Also, I thought dealing with that was the job of the hosting providers, is it not?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629970708921810https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629970708921810Sun, 24 May 2026 14:15:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:09:12 GMT]]>@derderwish @sebastian @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan But I'm not presenting the need to create and publish content as a solution. I'm presenting it as a necessary measure to ensure content exists if we ever find a solution. If we stop creating content, there will be no content when or if the actual problem ever go away.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629946536860158https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629946536860158Sun, 24 May 2026 14:09:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:02:45 GMT]]>@MikeElgan 😂 it’s funny but at the same time not funny with all the energy burn for literally nothing…

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116629811358278680/statuses/116629921150142462https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116629811358278680/statuses/116629921150142462Sun, 24 May 2026 14:02:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 13:56:12 GMT]]>@MikeElgan Should Nvidia even be on the list considering their AI profits, if I am not mistaken, is because of the datacenter infrastructure buildup and not actually doing "AI" tasks like the other companies bank, or not banking any yet, on..

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://oldfriends.live/users/paul/statuses/116629895419289550https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://oldfriends.live/users/paul/statuses/116629895419289550Sun, 24 May 2026 13:56:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 13:49:50 GMT]]>@KennedyRichard @sebastian @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan
One problem with that idea is that the crawler from the LLMs are enormously crappy designed and will lead to noticeable traffic.

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Attached: 1 image The AI botnets cannot be stopped. I am constantly getting scrape attempts for avatar-image-JPEG URLs that have not existed on my blog since a restructuring in 2022. They come in bursts of about a 100 per minute, each from a different IP address, and in random order. I thought: enough is enough, I need to figure out what clown service these are coming from and start blocking whole networks. Nope, they're almost all from cable modems, not from hosting facilities: https://jwz.org/b/yk7g

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.chaotikum.org/users/derderwish/statuses/116629870346422827https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.chaotikum.org/users/derderwish/statuses/116629870346422827Sun, 24 May 2026 13:49:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 13:40:06 GMT]]>@MikeElgan where are the Chinese AI? Deepseek, Alibaba, Moonshot, Zhipu, High-Flyer, etc.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jeffmcneill/statuses/116629832103824700https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jeffmcneill/statuses/116629832103824700Sun, 24 May 2026 13:40:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 13:33:38 GMT]]>@sebastian @cohentheblue @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan At the very least we should encourage individuals to have their own domains and publish their own content. There's no need for fancy websites, either. Simple text-based websites with meaningful content are the last holdout of a useful internet.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629806671820273https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629806671820273Sun, 24 May 2026 13:33:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 13:31:41 GMT]]>@sebastian @cohentheblue @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan

Yep. As I said, I don't have a solution. I just think we can't stop creating because of that. If we do, by the time we find a solution, there will be only slop.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629798991547151https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629798991547151Sun, 24 May 2026 13:31:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 13:21:07 GMT]]>@MikeElgan what even is money?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://chaos.social/users/bronsen/statuses/116629757491756090https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://chaos.social/users/bronsen/statuses/116629757491756090Sun, 24 May 2026 13:21:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 13:17:01 GMT]]>@julesbl @sebastian @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan I’m mostly joking about how stock-market-focused capitalism heavily incentivizes looking good for the current quarter, then bailing out before people outside realize you did it by selling off all the buildings and signing extortionate leases for those same buildings. Or by laying off all the people who actually make the product the company sells. Etc.

When the lack of good training data becomes a problem, the current heads will bail out before it becomes public knowledge how bad the situation is. Or they’ll be “fired” with hundreds of millions of dollars in severance. They’re incentivized to not care.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/bob_zim/statuses/116629741324089074https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/bob_zim/statuses/116629741324089074Sun, 24 May 2026 13:17:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 13:16:18 GMT]]>@sebastian @cohentheblue @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan

True. Like I said in reply to the post you just commented on, I don't have a solution to this, but at least it means the problem isn't a lack of quality content, just the discoverability/delivery. Until we find a problem to this, we must take care not to discourage people from writing/creating. We know meaningful content has value, so we must keep creating it while we find a way for it to get delivered to people that cares for it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629738494689590https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629738494689590Sun, 24 May 2026 13:16:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 13:12:59 GMT]]>@KennedyRichard @cohentheblue @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan

These content creators might not even see the spikes anymore, though, let alone be rewarded for them.
Everything they d see is crawlers.
Their content would be presented, and capitalized on, by those who run the centralized gateways.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://norrebro.space/users/sebastian/statuses/116629725509780962https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://norrebro.space/users/sebastian/statuses/116629725509780962Sun, 24 May 2026 13:12:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. on Sun, 24 May 2026 13:12:49 GMT]]>@cohentheblue @sebastian @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan

Fair enough. I myself often think some of my stuff didn't appeal to anyone and then after some time access to them spikes randomly when someone shares and suddenly a lot of people are reading/talking about it.

But at least this means we have a discoverability problem, not necessarily a content problem. I know it sucks and I don't have a solution, but while we figure out a solution, we must keep encouraging people to write/create.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629724849171139https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/KennedyRichard/statuses/116629724849171139Sun, 24 May 2026 13:12:49 GMT