<![CDATA[So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it.]]>So seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. Pedestrians have priority. End of. They don't need to hear you. Many can't hear you even if they wanted to. Thinking that dinging a bell comes with an expectation of a clear run is no different to drivers honking a horn and expecting cyclists to get out the road. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/90f939a3-e8da-489f-91a6-d371711f6bbe/so-biketooter-seems-very-excited-by-this-noise-cancelling-headphone-negating-bell-but-i-don-t-get-it.RSS for NodeThu, 30 Apr 2026 08:38:48 GMTWed, 08 Apr 2026 11:41:16 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 19:17:18 GMT]]>@pete Do pedestrians in the UK have priority even when they absent-mindedly dart into the street at the mid-point of a block? (in Canada this is called jay-walking & is generally illegal.) What about when pedestrians walk aberrantly in a back alley? (do you have back alleys in the UK?) And what about *other* cyclists wearing noise-cancelling earbuds?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.ca/users/sqwabb/statuses/116370691764492875https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.ca/users/sqwabb/statuses/116370691764492875Wed, 08 Apr 2026 19:17:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 19:11:44 GMT]]>@ClintonAnderson @Cycling_Liz @Pionir @pete @zebulonmysterioso the flip side of that is

"i can explain it to you but i can't understand it for you"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/n1ck/statuses/116370669843671291https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/n1ck/statuses/116370669843671291Wed, 08 Apr 2026 19:11:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 19:07:45 GMT]]>@pete
The legal structure here depends on the country. In Finland, pedestrians do not have the right to walk on a bike lane with an adjacent pedestrian path. They are legally required to move out of the way, just as they're not allowed to walk in the middle of a car lane.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/dymaxion/statuses/116370654214873110https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/dymaxion/statuses/116370654214873110Wed, 08 Apr 2026 19:07:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:59:09 GMT]]>@ClintonAnderson @pete @zebulonmysterioso @Cycling_Liz buses do.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/ytc1/statuses/116370384455550927https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/ytc1/statuses/116370384455550927Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:59:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:50:44 GMT]]>@ClintonAnderson @Pionir @pete @zebulonmysterioso I suggest you read my comments again. I'm not repeating myself and I believe some of these responses are made in bad faith. It's not Twitter and people are behaving like it is. Wrong side of bed? 🙄🫩😫

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Cycling_Liz/statuses/116370351376925695https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Cycling_Liz/statuses/116370351376925695Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:50:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:33:32 GMT]]>@ClintonAnderson @Cycling_Liz @pete no, they have priority.
It's different.
There is no right of way in the highway code

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/ytc1/statuses/116370283745799100https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/ytc1/statuses/116370283745799100Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:33:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:32:02 GMT]]>@jtwcornell91 @nickzoic @pete and still they step Infront of you....
If they walked on the right (as per HWC #2, and applied that to shared paths, then we would have zero issue.
Especially when confronted by a group, who you pre advise with a ding and then half go left z half go right, followed by both sets thinking the other is right and swapping sides multiple times.
Mean while their short arsed dog dives between your wheels :⁠-⁠)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/ytc1/statuses/116370277803321462https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/ytc1/statuses/116370277803321462Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:32:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:29:40 GMT]]>@pete
Pedestrians being top of the hierarchy of road users I agree with (Highway Code H1). And there should be no expectation of a clear run – cyclists need to be prepared to slow down and stop if necessary. It's up to the cyclist to safely maneuverer around them.

However, I disagree that there are no benefits to them hearing you. Bell aren't to tell them to get out of the way, but to let them know you're there.

I have a Timber! bell that just constantly jingles like a bear bell. Dog walkers absolutely prefer that than being startled when a silent bicycle overtakes them.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/Isthmus/statuses/116370268515102440https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/Isthmus/statuses/116370268515102440Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:29:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 16:03:56 GMT]]>@pete > pedestrians have priority. End of.

Not in the bike lane they don't. Try it in the Netherlands, you'll get it quickly.

The issue isn't simply a matter of entitlement in any case, but of safety. Pedestrians walking in or potentially about to step into a bike lane can and often do endanger others as well as themselves. Sure, some are deaf. Some wear bone conducting headphones so they can hear ambient sounds. Some are absent minded. Others think they can do what they like with impunity.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/samueljohnson/statuses/116369931390634177https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/samueljohnson/statuses/116369931390634177Wed, 08 Apr 2026 16:03:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 15:58:10 GMT]]>@nickzoic @pete speaking as both a pedestrian and occasional cyclist, it seems like a headphone-penetrating "on your left"/"on your right" would be more useful than just a bell.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hostux.social/users/jtwcornell91/statuses/116369908753768722https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hostux.social/users/jtwcornell91/statuses/116369908753768722Wed, 08 Apr 2026 15:58:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 14:09:26 GMT]]>@Pionir @pete Because rules are rules in the absence of consideration and common sense...

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/115809833444802106/statuses/116369481186966121https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/115809833444802106/statuses/116369481186966121Wed, 08 Apr 2026 14:09:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 14:01:44 GMT]]>@BongoTwisty @pete

Isn't the last one just "dogs"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.bike/users/Pionir/statuses/116369450883845248https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.bike/users/Pionir/statuses/116369450883845248Wed, 08 Apr 2026 14:01:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 14:00:05 GMT]]>@ClintonAnderson @pete @zebulonmysterioso @Cycling_Liz

I usually slow down if I shared spaces, and most pedestrians will move to the side of paths and bridleways, so it's rarely an issue that I encounter, but I've had pedestrians shout at me variously:

Use a bell
Stop ringing that effing bell
Get out of the road
Get out of the cycle path (!)

Being a pedestrian doesn't absolve people from "don't be an arsehole"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.bike/users/Pionir/statuses/116369444419311239https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.bike/users/Pionir/statuses/116369444419311239Wed, 08 Apr 2026 14:00:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:59:33 GMT]]>@pete Quite right too.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/115809833444802106/statuses/116369442302380704https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/115809833444802106/statuses/116369442302380704Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:59:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:54:19 GMT]]>@BongoTwisty Funnily enough, while slowing for them, I always tell (the nicer) dog walkers that their beasties will always have priority no matter what the Highway Code says. I reason that many people hates dog walkers as much as they hate cyclists so we should stick together.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hypertelia.com/users/pete/statuses/116369421709704592https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hypertelia.com/users/pete/statuses/116369421709704592Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:54:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:49:23 GMT]]>@ClintonAnderson *mounts fog horn on front rack*

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hypertelia.com/users/pete/statuses/116369402309004742https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hypertelia.com/users/pete/statuses/116369402309004742Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:49:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:48:47 GMT]]>@pete I'm shocked there is no graphic for dog walkers. I was of of the understanding that they can ignore everyone else with impunity.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/115809833444802106/statuses/116369399959042926https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/115809833444802106/statuses/116369399959042926Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:48:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:40:58 GMT]]>@pete
On the shared path, pedestrians tend to take up the entire path, failing to consider faster traffic behind. They forfeit their "priority" when disregarding other path users.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/plookington/statuses/116369369256570685https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/plookington/statuses/116369369256570685Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:40:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:38:57 GMT]]>@ClintonAnderson @pete @zebulonmysterioso @Cycling_Liz

Agreed, but this was not the point of my post.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.bike/users/Pionir/statuses/116369361331723302https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.bike/users/Pionir/statuses/116369361331723302Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:38:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:26:18 GMT]]>@pete @ClintonAnderson @zebulonmysterioso @Cycling_Liz

This image does not illustrate what you (or I did until recently) think it means

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Why pedestrians don't have priority on shared paths and shared spaces

Every time a video of a cyclist and a pedestrian on a shared route appears online, the same comments flood in.

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West Yorkshire Cycling (westyorkshirecycling.co.uk)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.bike/users/Pionir/statuses/116369311595292454https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.bike/users/Pionir/statuses/116369311595292454Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:26:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:22:24 GMT]]>@zebulonmysterioso @ClintonAnderson @Cycling_Liz … remember when we (as cyclists) rightly lost our shit when the Ineos Grenadier SUV included a button specifically for tooting it's horn at cyclists?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hypertelia.com/users/pete/statuses/116369296221539904https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hypertelia.com/users/pete/statuses/116369296221539904Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:22:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:17:14 GMT]]>@ClintonAnderson @zebulonmysterioso @Cycling_Liz In the UK it's part of the Highway Code. https://www.motoringresearch.com/advice/hierarchy-of-road-users/

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hypertelia.com/users/pete/statuses/116369275941333899https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hypertelia.com/users/pete/statuses/116369275941333899Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:17:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:14:19 GMT]]>@zebulonmysterioso @ClintonAnderson @Cycling_Liz

> … it's sharing situational awareness.

Perhaps technically yes, but the reality is that too many cyclists (and in turn car drivers) think that letting someone know they are there is necessary, and then ought
to lead to the more vulnerable road user ceding the space.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hypertelia.com/users/pete/statuses/116369264432448416https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.hypertelia.com/users/pete/statuses/116369264432448416Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:14:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. on Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:05:01 GMT]]>@pete @ClintonAnderson @Cycling_Liz

Are we discussing the same thing? I thought we were sharing perspectives on a bike bell that could cut through NC to help alert someone unaware of a bike's approach (from behind them) so that the cyclist could initiate a safe and respectful overtake?

Right of way doesn't really factor in, it's sharing situational awareness.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/zebulonmysterioso/statuses/116369227868004545https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/zebulonmysterioso/statuses/116369227868004545Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:05:01 GMT