The patriarchal Christians skip that origin story and go for the other version where woman was created later

That language is so gross and speculative.

Some religions just ran with it, because their own authoritarian streak has become indistinguishible from the Drumpfistas' version of it. The Mormons have ... discovered ... new anti-trans prophecies only this year, for an example.

Obligatory source reference: https://www.typeinvestigations.org/investigation/2018/01/22/secret-history-bathroom-bills/

@tillybridges

"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
What in God's name is wrong with letting them have that?
Please do not implement this insane idea.

SENT

This is painfully wrong.
Medical science has validated folks w/ gender dysphoria didn't ask for it & don't want it.
I have family members dealing with this as best they can.
Punishing them for this is very wrong.
Once upon a time (1781), two of my ancestors went up Kings Mountain and came back with Purple Hearts.
Every generation since has bled to protect Americans, even Americans with problems. {more}

* a white cis het male

"This proposed rule has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with anti-trans bigotry. It is pure discrimination on the basis of gender identity. There is no good reason for this discrimination and it will instead make life less safe for people in need. It is shameful and unconstitutional. If people of supposed "faith" cannot accommodate someone in need no matter what their gender identity, then there is something wrong with their "faith". It certainly doesn't align with genuine Christian values. THIS RULE IS WRONG AND SHOULD NOT BE PUT IN PLACE."

I wonder what kind of argument to take in the comment.

The EO is an attempt by one unpopular religion to shove it's beliefs on everyone?

Saying gender variant people don't exist is a willful denial of reality as we have documented cases of gender variant people existing in many cultures and many times.

There are plenty of other species who can change sex through their life.

Also this is just an effort by some vicious tyrants to gain political power by attacking a small powerless minority.

I'm not sure if any of those would be convincing arguments.

My gods, has no one in the R party even taken a biology course? They know absolutely nothing about gender. It's like their whole concept is if you have a pee-pee you're a boy, if you have a hoo-ha you're a girl.

Then there's this:

" Many faith traditions believe that sex is an immutable characteristic determined by a creator, that male and female are the only two sexes, and that it is wrong for a person to deny his or her sex. (18) Accordingly, many faith-based homeless shelters and other providers have sincerely held religious beliefs that they should conduct their ministries in ways that are consistent with this fundamental belief."

Then they shouldn't receive tax dollars.

reading the ruling is sad and infuriating. the sources suck, the logic is flaky, and their terminology and blatant erasing of trans people (and quite obsessively in the ruling: a strong focus on maligning trans women), plus making them all out to be potential criminals... it's garbage

(At least two broken source reference links.. gee how did that happen!)

they seem overly "concerned" that religious people, who want to discriminate against trans folk, are going to be upset if they (the dept) don't give them the legal blessing to do so

all of that "concern" seems entirely propped up on one incident in Alaska where a trans woman was refused entry to a homeless shelter for women, because the people running the place had Religious Beliefs (their god said it was OK to discriminate against trans people)... that's all the housing dept needed to get hysterical about a coming invasion

they are absolutely gobbling from the sewage pipe flowing out of the White House with regards to willfully spreading misinformation and hopping on board with the pseudo-science bullshit and rewriting terminology. like they have any actual clue about biology.

at least it appears there's a campaign in progress to leave (structured) comments against the ruling.