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</div><p></p><p><a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/Google" rel="tag">#<span>Google</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/email" rel="tag">#<span>email</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/client" rel="tag">#<span>client</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/elm" rel="tag">#<span>elm</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/pine" rel="tag">#<span>pine</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/OWM" rel="tag">#<span>OWM</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/Thor" rel="tag">#<span>Thor</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/Amiga" rel="tag">#<span>Amiga</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/M68k" rel="tag">#<span>M68k</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/Android" rel="tag">#<span>Android</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/Alphabet" rel="tag">#<span>Alphabet</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/programming" rel="tag">#<span>programming</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/Enshittification" rel="tag">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/OpenSource" rel="tag">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/Thunderbird" rel="tag">#<span>Thunderbird</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/7f658925-541e-45d8-9158-53227305496b/notice</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 08:07:00 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/7f658925-541e-45d8-9158-53227305496b.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 14:29:23 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Notice on Wed, 20 May 2026 16:30:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the link to k9 mail in fDroid. It's got a pleasant and efficient UI </p><p><span><a href="/user/haraldki%40nrw.social" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>HaraldKi</span></a></span></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/ap/users/116085795504318279/statuses/116607852997540806</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/ap/users/116085795504318279/statuses/116607852997540806</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[radio_azureus@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 16:30:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Notice on Wed, 20 May 2026 15:54:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I have seen this behavior on multiple Android devices of mine</p><p><span><a href="/user/neongod%40mstdn.social" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>neongod</span></a></span></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/ap/users/116085795504318279/statuses/116607712957362726</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/ap/users/116085795504318279/statuses/116607712957362726</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[radio_azureus@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 15:54:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Notice on Wed, 20 May 2026 15:40:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/radio_azureus%40ioc.exchange">@<span>Radio_Azureus</span></a></span> I don't use google products (including android), so I can't verify. Do you have sources or proof of this behavior?</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/neongod/statuses/116607657772975722</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/neongod/statuses/116607657772975722</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[neongod@mstdn.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 15:40:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Notice on Wed, 20 May 2026 15:33:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/radio_azureus%40ioc.exchange">@<span>Radio_Azureus</span></a></span> </p><p>On Android I use K9 for .... hmmm ... ever.</p><p><div class="card col-md-9 col-lg-6 position-relative link-preview p-0">



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