<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)?</p><p>Oscilloscope that replaces the ungodly slow USB3/1000baseT PC interface port with NVLink.</p><p>Forget PCIe and Thunderbolt... 900 GB/s of bandwidth straight from the ADC to my GPU? Sign me up.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/7ad79ff5-47da-4f77-8c5c-0a7c4304ba14/you-know-what-would-be-really-nice-but-nobody-is-ever-going-to-build</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 07:01:48 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/7ad79ff5-47da-4f77-8c5c-0a7c4304ba14.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 09:29:03 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 13:58:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/funkylab%40mastodon.social">@<span>funkylab</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/cliffsesport%40mastodon.social">@<span>CliffsEsport</span></a></span> The layer 2 MAC is identical.</p><p>PHY? Yeah, that's totally different.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116516656607396213</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116516656607396213</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[azonenberg@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 13:58:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 13:57:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/cliffsesport%40mastodon.social">@<span>CliffsEsport</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/azonenberg%40ioc.exchange">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> oh, that's not very similar to the Ethernet you know. The MAC mechanism is *completely* different.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/funkylab/statuses/116516652470516494</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/funkylab/statuses/116516652470516494</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[funkylab@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 13:57:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 13:26:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/azonenberg%40ioc.exchange">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/funkylab%40mastodon.social">@<span>funkylab</span></a></span> Oh, wow,  I did not know cars were switching to Ethernet.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116516532672456125</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116516532672456125</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[cliffsesport@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 13:26:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 13:22:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/cliffsesport%40mastodon.social">@<span>CliffsEsport</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/funkylab%40mastodon.social">@<span>funkylab</span></a></span> Much lower speed stuff still benefits from better processing.</p><p>Modern cars are switching from CAN bus to Ethernet for talking between modules. 100baseT1 is a common flavor that runs Ethernet frames at 100 Mbps bidirectionally over a single pair of wires.</p><p>If you want to simultaneously look at a protocol decode and signal quality view of that signal in both directions you're looking at around a GB/s of data. Which ngscopeclient is able to crunch in real time (barely, this is a recent tech demo)</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116516517170200758</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116516517170200758</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[azonenberg@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 13:22:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 13:18:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/cliffsesport%40mastodon.social">@<span>CliffsEsport</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/funkylab%40mastodon.social">@<span>funkylab</span></a></span> My focus is mostly on the high speed digital side of things, so networking, high speed buses, etc. Modern digital interfaces are absurdly fast.</p><p>Even USB 3.0 was 5 Gbps per pair and that's pretty slow compared to modern stuff. PCIe gen6 runs at 64 Gbps.</p><p>DisplayPort goes up to 20 Gbps per lane now.</p><p>But understanding complex issues around these buses involves recording a lot of data, processing it fast, looking at packet captures and physical layer signal quality, etc. There's always room to crunch more data faster.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116516501546938599</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116516501546938599</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[azonenberg@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 13:18:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 13:14:18 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/azonenberg%40ioc.exchange">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/funkylab%40mastodon.social">@<span>funkylab</span></a></span> I am curious what fields use Oscilloscopes at level you build and test for? I am guessing radio &amp; perhaps medical?  I've only ever used them for basic electronics back in the 90s so the performance of your stuff is just stunning.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116516484459161199</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116516484459161199</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[cliffsesport@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 13:14:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 12:30:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/penguin42%40mastodon.org.uk">@<span>penguin42</span></a></span> If somebody makes a GPU with CXL I'll be all over it.</p><p>Until then I'm stuck with what I can get my hands on. Realistically, that's PCIe and RoCE</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116516312748720348</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116516312748720348</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[azonenberg@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 12:30:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 12:29:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/azonenberg%40ioc.exchange">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> How about CXL4?  That claims 242GB/s and is at least designed for external connectivity.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.org.uk/users/penguin42/statuses/116516309422997061</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.org.uk/users/penguin42/statuses/116516309422997061</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[penguin42@mastodon.org.uk]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 12:29:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 11:11:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/azonenberg%40ioc.exchange">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> I was trying to make a joke with the 1st part "Oh no wait it's sampling to slow."</p><p>But the second part about the thunderscope is cool.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/scribblesonnapkins/statuses/116516003239649205</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/scribblesonnapkins/statuses/116516003239649205</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[scribblesonnapkins@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 11:11:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 11:05:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/funkylab%40mastodon.social">@<span>funkylab</span></a></span> NVLink is the fantasy, the actually achievable real world implementation is to make the scope speak RoCE, put a mellanox NIC in the client, and RDMA the incoming Ethernet frames straight into VRAM.</p><p>But it still has to cross over PCIe and get bottlenecked on that bandwidth</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116515976466569303</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116515976466569303</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[azonenberg@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 11:05:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 11:04:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/funkylab%40mastodon.social">@<span>funkylab</span></a></span> That's where RoCE comes in.</p><p>But Ethernet today tops out at 800 Gbps while the latest NVLink can do 14.4 Tbps</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116515972490106293</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116515972490106293</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[azonenberg@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 11:04:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 11:03:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/azonenberg%40ioc.exchange">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> I was assuming that you'd probably (assuming infinite money) could buy an Nvidia server platform that has network-&gt;VRAM piping (I assume this because I presume that's what nvidia bought mellanox for)</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/funkylab/statuses/116515968753895894</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/funkylab/statuses/116515968753895894</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[funkylab@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 11:03:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 10:58:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/funkylab%40mastodon.social">@<span>funkylab</span></a></span> oh i know, nvlink doesnt even let you get the PHY chiplets (the protocol itself is undocumented) unless you have NDAs and a partnership with nvidia etc.</p><p>but I can dream...</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116515950039664711</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116515950039664711</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[azonenberg@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 10:58:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 10:57:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/azonenberg%40ioc.exchange">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> I doubt your pockets will be deep enough for NVlink things involving anything but GPUs <img src="https://board.circlewithadot.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=28325c671da" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/funkylab/statuses/116515946306252454</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/funkylab/statuses/116515946306252454</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[funkylab@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 10:57:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 10:55:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/scribblesonnapkins%40mastodon.social">@<span>scribblesonnapkins</span></a></span> well equivalent time sampling is easy to handle with today's tech because the number of actual samples acquired per second is low.</p><p>equally, a scope that acquires high speed data and buffers it in memory before processing at a much slower rate is something we can handle today.</p><p>But the vision is to be able to do real time or at least lower-dead-time processing at much higher data rates. ThunderScope almost maxes out 10GbE, my vision is to able to keep up with 25/40/100G eventually</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116515937131805623</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116515937131805623</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[azonenberg@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 10:55:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 10:53:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/azonenberg%40ioc.exchange">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> so my tek 11801C with it's ability to connect to an external sampling head array might present a problem? Oh no wait it's sampling to slow.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/scribblesonnapkins/statuses/116515931011186607</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/scribblesonnapkins/statuses/116515931011186607</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[scribblesonnapkins@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 10:53:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 10:35:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/funkylab%40mastodon.social">@<span>funkylab</span></a></span> You can go all the way up to 800G if you have a host system with PCIe gen6 and sufficiently deep pockets (I do not)</p><p><div class="card col-md-9 col-lg-6 position-relative link-preview p-0">

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Anyways, when I saw NVLink my first reaction was "wait is this HyperTransport, but with expensive modern transceivers?"; it isn't, but my guess is that from a system's perspective, you'd be better off going for AMD's InfinityFabric, which seems to make stronger coherence statements (not sure). But, you</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/funkylab/statuses/116515661244575708</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/funkylab/statuses/116515661244575708</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[funkylab@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 09:44:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to You know what would be really nice (but nobody is ever going to build)? on Mon, 04 May 2026 09:33:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>For comparison... my 16 GHz LeCroy oscilloscope puts out 40 Gsps * 4 channels * 8 bits of raw ADC samples, not counting the flatness corrections done in gateware/firmware.</p><p>That's 160 GB/s or 1.28 Tbps of raw samples.</p><p>That would even fit in NVLink 2.0 much less the current gen4/5 stuff.</p><p>Imagine four channels of 16 GHz bandwidth waveform data straight into a (very large) GPU nonstop... We'd have to do a hell of a lot of optimization to ngscopeclient to keep up and probably add multi-GPU support but it would be so much fun lol.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116515618109864792</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/azonenberg/statuses/116515618109864792</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[azonenberg@ioc.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 09:33:59 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>