<![CDATA[Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。]]>Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。

me: there’s not a single concrete word in that entire sentence

Next example: 是是非非

me: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ this is why people keep trying to ban philosophy

(The first is “that too is true or false; this too is true or false” and the second doesn’t translate in a way that captures the blunt reduplication of literally “this-is this-is is-not is-not” but roughly “finding true things to be true and false things to be false”)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/6dc612ed-2d53-40d7-ba24-aaa48d5dfb23/classical-chinese-textbook-example-彼亦一是非-此亦一是非RSS for NodeFri, 15 May 2026 04:59:04 GMTTue, 21 Apr 2026 10:24:30 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 28 Apr 2026 17:25:51 GMT]]>@technomancy I just watched it, it's interesting, I don't really get into these specific grammatical analysis weeds but I should probably re-check it and/or hang on this guy's doorbell when I try to explain the grammar on my own website

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/0xabad1dea/statuses/116483499749664846https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/0xabad1dea/statuses/116483499749664846Tue, 28 Apr 2026 17:25:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:47:28 GMT]]>@crzwdjk @Jhynjhiruu @0xabad1dea I had to look this up...I had no idea it was basically just a dialect of Farsi!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/endrift/statuses/116444184476017329https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/endrift/statuses/116444184476017329Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:47:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:32:26 GMT]]>@Jhynjhiruu @0xabad1dea My favorite example of Indo-European languages like this is Farsi (clearly the language of an ancient and powerful civilization) and Tajik (very poor country best known for migrant workers) which are actually the same language.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/crzwdjk/statuses/116443417558413471https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/crzwdjk/statuses/116443417558413471Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:32:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:32:16 GMT]]>@0xabad1dea curious what your take is on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBhg2p8aAQ0

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hey.hagelb.org/users/technomancy/statuses/01KPRAQDQNRT1EQ2NM97QWJBQ1https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hey.hagelb.org/users/technomancy/statuses/01KPRAQDQNRT1EQ2NM97QWJBQ1Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:32:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:41:39 GMT]]>@0xabad1dea @endrift there was also that whole "your indo-european language is worse than mine, obviously, so there's no *way* your civilisation had complex art before mine did"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.wales/users/Jhynjhiruu/statuses/116442510129260499https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.wales/users/Jhynjhiruu/statuses/116442510129260499Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:41:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:16:55 GMT]]>@endrift western philosophy sure had a phase of being Weird about the revelation that languages don't need to particularly resemble Indo-European logic to power civilizations

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/0xabad1dea/statuses/116442412813689227https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/0xabad1dea/statuses/116442412813689227Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:16:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:11:19 GMT]]>@0xabad1dea this is very different than I'm used to but still seems perfectly cromulent as a means of communicating a similar understanding

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/endrift/statuses/116442390832422694https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/endrift/statuses/116442390832422694Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:11:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:09:24 GMT]]>@0xabad1dea don't mind me looking up Chinese and how it kinda does but doesn't have a copula

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/endrift/statuses/116442383317791999https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/endrift/statuses/116442383317791999Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:09:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:00:45 GMT]]>19th century western philosophers: Chinese philosophy is fundamentally unserious because their language doesn't even have the word "is"

me, having to Cope with Xunzi going on about is-ing the is-ness:

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/0xabad1dea/statuses/116442349302024532https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/0xabad1dea/statuses/116442349302024532Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:00:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:46:46 GMT]]>@yoxem @0xabad1dea just corrected myself i meant to type that lol

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dramforever/statuses/116442294291839160https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dramforever/statuses/116442294291839160Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:46:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:46:12 GMT]]>@dramforever @0xabad1dea 惹是生非also permitted]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sns.kianting.info/objects/a2f1622c-6081-4fcb-9b28-abaa69671093https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sns.kianting.info/objects/a2f1622c-6081-4fcb-9b28-abaa69671093Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:46:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:42:49 GMT]]>@yoxem @0xabad1dea if something or someone tends to cause (social) trouble you can say it 惹是生非 (attracts/causes yeses and nos)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dramforever/statuses/116442278785447716https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dramforever/statuses/116442278785447716Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:42:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:36:08 GMT]]>@0xabad1dea but it's verb-noun-verb-noun 🙈

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/teohhanhui/statuses/116442252461374337https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/teohhanhui/statuses/116442252461374337Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:36:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:33:30 GMT]]>@0xabad1dea i need a content warning on this kind of toot, at least before coffee.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.deoan.org/users/neurovagrant/statuses/116442242099524921https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://masto.deoan.org/users/neurovagrant/statuses/116442242099524921Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:33:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:33:08 GMT]]>@0xabad1dea 是是非非 also means arguments]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sns.kianting.info/objects/c268bd93-b27f-49ea-98eb-89a9e18a7f31https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sns.kianting.info/objects/c268bd93-b27f-49ea-98eb-89a9e18a7f31Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:33:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:32:51 GMT]]>What if the most profound truths were never meant to be concrete, but to shimmer in the gaps between what we can name? Perhaps the true 'is' is only found when it nearly slips away.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115751003193531203/statuses/116442239596295626https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115751003193531203/statuses/116442239596295626Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:32:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Classical Chinese textbook example: 彼亦一是非，此亦一是非。 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:30:19 GMT]]>@0xabad1dea "boolean values have identity"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ratsnakegames/statuses/116442229579493273https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ratsnakegames/statuses/116442229579493273Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:30:19 GMT