<![CDATA[The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world.]]>The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world.

The inability of conservatives to imagine that people have left wing values, or might be gay just... naturally that training and leadership aren't needed or wanted is both hilarious and disturbing.

Trans people can't just exist, someone, some organization is making them trans!

It will all in tears. The only question is whose tears.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/550353d2-702c-488a-8e10-b1a053a806fa/the-us-government-hunting-for-the-leader-of-antifa-is-like-when-they-hunted-for-dorthy-the-leader-all-of-the-gay-men-in-the-military-and-perhaps-the-world.RSS for NodeFri, 01 May 2026 01:26:18 GMTSun, 26 Apr 2026 10:16:13 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 17:00:24 GMT]]>@SteveClough @futurebird If it helps emasculated truck nuts owners feel better to eat their yoghurt out of a black tub emblazoned with the word "protein" in enormous letters, and use "aircraft carrier" scented perfume out of a cute little black can, fine, good for them. Indoctrinating kids into thinking all of that's normal seems like a bad idea, though.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://myside-yourside.net/users/StarkRG/statuses/116472075056391635https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://myside-yourside.net/users/StarkRG/statuses/116472075056391635Sun, 26 Apr 2026 17:00:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:42:47 GMT]]>@StarkRG @futurebird You know the flow chart about whether it is operated with the genitals?

I do think that gendered roles should be outlawed, and people could be given information about possible roles, and have a chance to find their own place.

But, of course, that would scare the people who like to have power over people.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/SteveClough/statuses/116472005787422564https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/SteveClough/statuses/116472005787422564Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:42:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:38:49 GMT]]>@futurebird They rely so much on hierarchies - patriarchies in face - that they cannot imagine it is possible to have an idea without some such structure, some formal organisation.

It is, in one respect, a simple lack of imagination - something that the right have always lacked. They cannot envision any way that the world, or any part of it, could be organised differently to what they see and have. How anyone can not wish to have power over others.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/SteveClough/statuses/116471990144593688https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/SteveClough/statuses/116471990144593688Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:38:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:38:13 GMT]]>@futurebird Haha, it's funny how that happens. I wasn't the last to know (about me being trans) but people knew before I told them, including my wife.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/thomasjwebb/statuses/116471987791012608https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/thomasjwebb/statuses/116471987791012608Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:38:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:31:19 GMT]]>@thomasjwebb

I'm bi and I was the last person to find this out. Of EVERYONE

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116471960650363876https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116471960650363876Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:31:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:21:27 GMT]]>@futurebird my theory is that in many cases, consciously or not, parents' gayday or transdar susses out their own kids early on and the subtle conversion therapy starts. Many queers (myself included) have stories that strongly suggest it doesn't start with any coming out.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/thomasjwebb/statuses/116471921879626605https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/thomasjwebb/statuses/116471921879626605Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:21:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:11:57 GMT]]>@futurebird I don't think for a moment that leaders of 's various types of federal cops really believe that is an organisation with leaders. They are mostly well-educated people, who understand that the power of an idea can thrive without structure.

They also understand the power of the . The Big Lie that there is an organised conspiracy is powerful to bbuild public support for repression, and to motivate enforcers.

The BigLie is not folly. It's strategy

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/2legged/statuses/116471884506948055https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/2legged/statuses/116471884506948055Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:11:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:11:35 GMT]]>Trump seems to mess up the world more than any single trans person could. One day Maga supporters will realize?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://peoplemaking.games/users/nanjizal/statuses/116471883074698609https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://peoplemaking.games/users/nanjizal/statuses/116471883074698609Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:11:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 15:54:09 GMT]]>@wickedsmoke @futurebird

maybe *you* know it, but I would encourage you to imagine other people with a different reading list than you

bc there are an awful lot of think pieces out there trying to “gotcha” the right by showing how most beneficiaries of various social programs they fight against are in red states

and the thesis is usually “how are you going to keep your constituency if you take away their medicare” and almost never “it makes sense you’d want to take away their medicare, that’s what is freeing them from the shackles of hierarchy”

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sunny.garden/users/infryq/statuses/116471814509691314https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sunny.garden/users/infryq/statuses/116471814509691314Sun, 26 Apr 2026 15:54:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 15:48:09 GMT]]>@futurebird I look at outrage culture*, and there's so much to be upset about, sometimes I wonder if I've been duped, too. Then I wonder who would trick people into progressive values and why, and the answer from the right always seems to boil down to general malevolence for its own sake, or just "Satan!!!"

I think you're right about not seeing the rigid strucures of indoctrination. I know they're there, but I still can't wrap my head around how many people seem to accept them without any curiosity.

*I mean, we should be outraged by the outrageous, but that's a whole other thing.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.ca/users/Space_Burger_Steve/statuses/116471790896868120https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.ca/users/Space_Burger_Steve/statuses/116471790896868120Sun, 26 Apr 2026 15:48:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 15:41:01 GMT]]>@martinvermeer @willyyam @futurebird
YES! I think this is vv important

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/patsytheshark/statuses/116471762846000506https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/patsytheshark/statuses/116471762846000506Sun, 26 Apr 2026 15:41:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:58:04 GMT]]>@futurebird This is their hierarchical authoritarianism showing again.

*They* don't have any stable identity or principles, they are entirely defined by authorities telling them who they are. They can't comprehend self-actualization or people having intrinsic identities.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/gooba42/statuses/116471593999840738https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/gooba42/statuses/116471593999840738Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:58:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:53:50 GMT]]>@futurebird But I can understand what they came from. Journalists are used to editors / editors in chief changing what they wrote, choosing the title etc., or to the owner of the newspaper dictating the editorial line (not to mention those buying advertisements).

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/MonniauxD/statuses/116471577377210545https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/MonniauxD/statuses/116471577377210545Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:53:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:52:35 GMT]]>@MonniauxD

no... it's just nerds arguing

And YOU can join them!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116471572426252444https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116471572426252444Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:52:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:51:58 GMT]]>@futurebird I recall commentators (both left and right wing) that believed that there was some kind of secret core of bosses that would decide what version went on Wikipedia.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/MonniauxD/statuses/116471570007834917https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/MonniauxD/statuses/116471570007834917Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:51:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:48:11 GMT]]>@futurebird I think it's usually more subtle (but only usually): permission structures and the like tend to be multilayered messes and often they're only supposed to be taken at face value by suckers or by the enemy

so failing to notice what coheres into the next layer(s)?...

(there's also failing to let people know what they can actually ask for, which is a great way to screw over people from the wrong backgrounds)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://types.pl/users/flippac/statuses/116471555104144524https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://types.pl/users/flippac/statuses/116471555104144524Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:48:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:32:03 GMT]]>@Phosphenes

You don't need a wall, but there are different ways to be, right?

Like a vast field that gradually becomes forest. Are you a flower in the field or one that grows in the forest? Where does the forest end? it's blended but there are still differences.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116471491701053079https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/116471491701053079Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:32:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:29:42 GMT]]>@Phosphenes @futurebird it could be always physical body dysphoria. Or something like this often described in blogs of trans women discovering themselves as adults. Like their brain/nervous systems needing opposite hormones. They often call it "running on wrong fuel" and after starting HRT they say finally they could experience emotions fully, have better focus ability and/or got rid of fog or wall preventing them from feeling.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://is-a.cat/users/madargon/statuses/116471482468242689https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://is-a.cat/users/madargon/statuses/116471482468242689Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:29:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:29:39 GMT]]>@futurebird Gendered kids toys should be banned. There's no good reason that kids toys should ever be marketed to one gender over another.

In fact, I'm starting to come around on the idea of all kids just being considered a single gender until such a time as they decide on another.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://myside-yourside.net/users/StarkRG/statuses/116471482254840698https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://myside-yourside.net/users/StarkRG/statuses/116471482254840698Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:29:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:27:42 GMT]]>@MCDuncanLab @oddtail @futurebird 90s in Europe weren't much different.

And to be honest, even though we've had a few female media heroines in the meantime, I'm afraid things didn't change enough overall. Of course, women do mostly have jobs now, but if they have kids, they now can't do anything right anymore. And work is still a boy's club if you climb high enough.

Nothing that can't be rolled back in a generation, as is very apparent by the tendencies seen in your government, I'm sure you're aware.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/lizzard/statuses/116471474605857614https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/lizzard/statuses/116471474605857614Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:27:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:24:16 GMT]]>@futurebird @spz Seems plausible at least for core MAGA. I mean, we see it. Every. Single. Day. But of course, most people are not such clean specimens. They are complicated. Values matter, and what people they look up to say matters, in a varying mix.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fediscience.org/users/martinvermeer/statuses/116471461082257405https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fediscience.org/users/martinvermeer/statuses/116471461082257405Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:24:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:20:39 GMT]]>@futurebird we know that white supremacy is a death cult.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/burnitdown/statuses/116471446860653101https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/burnitdown/statuses/116471446860653101Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:20:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:19:27 GMT]]>@futurebird i've heard a lot of people say that anarchy is the default human position. most us are already anarchists and just don't know it yet.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/burnitdown/statuses/116471442115827027https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/burnitdown/statuses/116471442115827027Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:19:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The US government hunting for the Leader of Antifa is like when they hunted for "Dorthy" the leader all of the gay men in the military and perhaps the world. on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:16:47 GMT]]>@futurebird it's because that's what they do and their imagination is so limited they can't imagine any other way to exist, and the idea of existing without hierarchy scares the shit out of them cause it would mean the end of their unearned power. they are nothing without it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/burnitdown/statuses/116471431628540471https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/burnitdown/statuses/116471431628540471Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:16:47 GMT