<![CDATA[The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦]]>The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦

Unfortunately also tagged with IPv6 😭

And of course with the beautiful framing like "the IETF revealed a new proposal".

Jre anpu nyyra Frvgra bssra vfg, vfg avpug zrue tnam qvpug!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/49c75cb9-8a03-4d7b-9836-bf47e4a4ee44/the-v-8-bullshit-is-still-circulating-as-serious-alternativeRSS for NodeWed, 29 Apr 2026 19:20:51 GMTTue, 21 Apr 2026 17:47:39 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 04:54:50 GMT]]>That's utter BS. Here are some of the lies I spotted in that document:

  • IPv8 the new IP protocol that reduces risk, and complexity
  • IPv6 requires you to run two networks forever
]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://westergaard.social/objects/c7b57b15-f726-4498-b751-ab1fea1ef10bhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://westergaard.social/objects/c7b57b15-f726-4498-b751-ab1fea1ef10bThu, 23 Apr 2026 04:54:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 04:47:59 GMT]]>It's also missing IPv6 support, which is my primary reason for using archive.is.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://westergaard.social/objects/09394fa9-2030-43af-8c07-1d67cb05d0a6https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://westergaard.social/objects/09394fa9-2030-43af-8c07-1d67cb05d0a6Thu, 23 Apr 2026 04:47:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:23:09 GMT]]>@jima @tschaefer @ghostinthenet In some ways, I think it's perfect that LinkedIn content stays wholly contained within that platform lol

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/litchralee_v6/statuses/116451874569961037https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/litchralee_v6/statuses/116451874569961037Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:23:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:21:09 GMT]]>@litchralee_v6 @tschaefer @ghostinthenet It wasn't my first choice, but the Wayback Machine can't scrape LinkedIn posts, apparently. 😒

Got a better alternative? I'm game.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/jima/statuses/116451866640576968https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/jima/statuses/116451866640576968Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:21:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:12:31 GMT]]>@jima @tschaefer @ghostinthenet For different reasons, I no longer use archive\.is links or visit them

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/litchralee_v6/statuses/116451832733987747https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/litchralee_v6/statuses/116451832733987747Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:12:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:10:38 GMT]]>@litchralee_v6 @tschaefer @ghostinthenet Can I make matters worse by providing his rationale? 🤭

archive.is

favicon

(archive.is)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/jima/statuses/116451825307700202https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/jima/statuses/116451825307700202Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:10:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:08:34 GMT]]>@jima @tschaefer @ghostinthenet The thing is, I'd prefer to never have to see that dismal document ever again. Its very existence exudes categorical error.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/litchralee_v6/statuses/116451817192545201https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/litchralee_v6/statuses/116451817192545201Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:08:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:06:00 GMT]]>@litchralee_v6 @tschaefer @ghostinthenet You tell me. 😛

https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-thain-ipv8-00&url2=draft-thain-ipv8-02&difftype=--hwdiff

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/jima/statuses/116451807072310954https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/jima/statuses/116451807072310954Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:06:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:03:50 GMT]]>@jima @tschaefer @ghostinthenet Do IETF proposals get their TTL extended when there's a revision?

I would support additional meowing in the only proposal that's worth talking about, just to make sure it sticks around. 🐱

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/litchralee_v6/statuses/116451798556084737https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/litchralee_v6/statuses/116451798556084737Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:03:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 02:50:09 GMT]]>@tschaefer @ghostinthenet It's on its third iteration... 😬

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/jima/statuses/116451744752684697https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/jima/statuses/116451744752684697Thu, 23 Apr 2026 02:50:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 02:22:27 GMT]]>@tschaefer I know the general consensus is that it's a joke or some sort of AI test, but then I found... 😑

https://archive.is/JBNEH

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/jima/statuses/116451635849290525https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/jima/statuses/116451635849290525Thu, 23 Apr 2026 02:22:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:21:03 GMT]]>@litchralee_v6 @tschaefer ...and even then they'd likely loop the network.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/neirbowj/statuses/116448327322675323https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/neirbowj/statuses/116448327322675323Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:21:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 22:05:22 GMT]]>@kasperd @tschaefer Agreed. We’ve hit 50% IPv6 deployment (if we use Google as a reference) so we’re in a good position to start using their argument against them. If trying to shore up IPv4 made sense because it was the majority protocol at the time, it’s worth finally committing to IPv6 now that it has taken the crown.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/ghostinthenet/statuses/116444962666541723https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/ghostinthenet/statuses/116444962666541723Tue, 21 Apr 2026 22:05:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 21:06:22 GMT]]>There has been a steady stream of bad proposals and some Aprils Fools jokes making fun of those.

I think the proposals themselves are not the real problem here, but rather they are a symptom of a problem. The actual problem I think is people looking for excuses to not deploy IPv6. And whenever they see an alternative proposal they see that as another excuse they can use.

I am not sure these proposals are doing any harm. The mindset of the people who endorse them can slow down IPv6 deployments without needing stupid alternative proposals.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://westergaard.social/objects/4a2976e7-b0f0-4683-9ffa-959f1e6e29cfhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://westergaard.social/objects/4a2976e7-b0f0-4683-9ffa-959f1e6e29cfTue, 21 Apr 2026 21:06:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:29:24 GMT]]>@ghostinthenet

Then comes the next proposal...

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/tschaefer/statuses/116444349372586194https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/tschaefer/statuses/116444349372586194Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:29:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:24:40 GMT]]>@tschaefer I like that it expires in October. Without a valid proof of concept, that’ll be the end of it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/ghostinthenet/statuses/116444330772886382https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/ghostinthenet/statuses/116444330772886382Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:24:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:41:52 GMT]]>@tschaefer At the current rate, the proposal -- which I will not even dignify with a name -- will become a litmus test, to detect people who genuinely do not understand one iota of network complexity, or history for that matter.

Such people must never be put in charge of anything more complicated than plugging in an Ethernet cord.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/litchralee_v6/statuses/116444162448767603https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/litchralee_v6/statuses/116444162448767603Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:41:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:33:07 GMT]]>@tschaefer In a sense it's great: It produces an implicit list of media publishers without any competence in contextualizing information.

Unangekündigte Medienkompetenzübung.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://chaos.social/users/chrysn/statuses/116444128077501324https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://chaos.social/users/chrysn/statuses/116444128077501324Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:33:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:17:55 GMT]]>@tschaefer in general I've been responding with https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-meow-mrrp/ when people point to the "IPv8 draft"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/hugo/statuses/116444068308426298https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/hugo/statuses/116444068308426298Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:17:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:58:48 GMT]]>@tschaefer Ah.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.teckids.org/users/nik/statuses/116443993108417708https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.teckids.org/users/nik/statuses/116443993108417708Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:58:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:58:26 GMT]]>@nik

Ich meine die IETF, die scheinbar für *jeden* Vorschlag offen ist, ihn unter ihrer Domain zu veröffentlichen.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/tschaefer/statuses/116443991676317949https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/tschaefer/statuses/116443991676317949Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:58:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:55:53 GMT]]>"In most cases, a minor software update to various systems is all that’s needed. "

Just further 30 years to complete 🤨

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/tschaefer/statuses/116443981613952127https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ipv6.social/users/tschaefer/statuses/116443981613952127Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:55:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The v 8 bullshit is still circulating as serious alternative 🤦 on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:55:29 GMT]]>@tschaefer Ich kann den letzten Satz zwar flüssig lesen, aber verstehen tu ich ihn im Kontext trotzdem nicht…

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.teckids.org/users/nik/statuses/116443980075668081https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.teckids.org/users/nik/statuses/116443980075668081Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:55:29 GMT