<![CDATA[LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers.]]>LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. They’re going to be replacing it for decades and wondering how we were so foolish

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/2e09d936-f9ac-4ef9-8712-c672f33d5cf6/llm-code-is-the-lead-pipe-of-our-generation-of-software-engineers.RSS for NodeWed, 08 Apr 2026 11:16:14 GMTFri, 13 Mar 2026 04:51:00 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 09:13:49 GMT]]>@rupert @danirabbit yes Agreed!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/muod/statuses/116221098671821121https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/muod/statuses/116221098671821121Fri, 13 Mar 2026 09:13:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 08:41:46 GMT]]>@danirabbit

It's so wonderful to see such faith in the quality of the average human-written code!

But every time I look at Coverity (an excellent static analyzer for finding difficult bugs) I see their "defect density over time" graph which has the "OSS average" set at 0.5 (presumably per 1000 LOC).

Whenever I added new code, I could not get it to stay at 0.0, whether it was my code, other humans or AI. I had to rely on Coverity to determine the errors and fix them (now also AI's job).

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/hopeless/statuses/116220972689998902https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/hopeless/statuses/116220972689998902Fri, 13 Mar 2026 08:41:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 08:22:08 GMT]]>@muod @danirabbit So are whips. I heard baking with them is all the rage nowadays.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.community/users/slotos/statuses/116220895469934704https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.community/users/slotos/statuses/116220895469934704Fri, 13 Mar 2026 08:22:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 08:08:30 GMT]]>@muod @danirabbit A stolen tool that kills a non-trivial fraction of a polar bear every time it's used, that is sold by a man who constantly lies about its capabilities.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.nz/users/rupert/statuses/116220841825666345https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.nz/users/rupert/statuses/116220841825666345Fri, 13 Mar 2026 08:08:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 08:06:47 GMT]]>@thepwnicorn @danirabbit "aisbestos" is my current favourite. It certainly is. A wonder-product to cure all our problems now. It won't take as long as asbestos for it to be revealed as an awful idea though.

I'm sure it'll be harder for big ai to hide it than for big asbestos who spent years suppressing science, lobbying governments and denying victims' claims.

Pliny the younger wrote of the illness of asbestos mine workers and he's so old he's in history books. He even wrote about history before it had been invented. Probably because it was the present when he wrote. However we still put asbestos in everything we could in the twentieth century.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/securedllama/statuses/116220835091519682https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/securedllama/statuses/116220835091519682Fri, 13 Mar 2026 08:06:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:35:51 GMT]]>@danirabbit Jeppp, same energy as what @pluralistic wrote a while ago: "AI is the asbestos we are shoveling into the walls of our society and our descendants will be digging it out for generations:"

Just a moment...

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://floss.social/users/sstendahl/statuses/116220713455956161https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://floss.social/users/sstendahl/statuses/116220713455956161Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:35:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:21:37 GMT]]>@danirabbit LLM is just tool. Thats all!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/muod/statuses/116220657517359372https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/muod/statuses/116220657517359372Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:21:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:14:06 GMT]]>@danirabbit I'm a bit curious how ElementaryOS (well, you lot πŸ˜„) are coping with upstream vibecoding if and when it happens?

I have no bright ideas, to be honest - so consider this my copium asking more knowledgable people 😊.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://helvede.net/users/tofticles/statuses/116220627921422165https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://helvede.net/users/tofticles/statuses/116220627921422165Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:14:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:02:27 GMT]]>@danirabbit
βœ… Causes brain damage when used to ingest.
βœ… Adds a sweet taste to everything, even shit.
βœ… Is the preferred weapon of thugs-of-the-age.
βœ… Easy to solder together haphazardly.

Yep.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://defcon.social/users/reijomancer/statuses/116220582123472833https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://defcon.social/users/reijomancer/statuses/116220582123472833Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:02:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 06:49:30 GMT]]>@danirabbit That's the time frame I considered, decades. Furthermore, there will be advances with the technology. In some years LeCun plans to have his startup produce new models, based on JEPA. If you give even a 10-20% more reliability to current systems people will eventually adopt them as undisputable truth - even if they fail a 50% of times, and bias users 90% of times.
I've had a talk right yesterday with a very smart engineer who was anyway totally enchanted by an LLM's results.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/ap/users/116092650648397225/statuses/116220531206022739https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/ap/users/116092650648397225/statuses/116220531206022739Fri, 13 Mar 2026 06:49:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 06:27:38 GMT]]>@danirabbit

"Did you eat LLM chips as a kid?"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.plus/users/GGMcBG/statuses/116220445241669914https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.plus/users/GGMcBG/statuses/116220445241669914Fri, 13 Mar 2026 06:27:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 06:25:27 GMT]]>@danirabbit Or maybe asbestos.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/RachaelAva1024/statuses/116220436667591663https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/RachaelAva1024/statuses/116220436667591663Fri, 13 Mar 2026 06:25:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 06:24:52 GMT]]>@danirabbit I saw it described elsewhere as digital asbestos.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/thepwnicorn/statuses/116220434346636272https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/thepwnicorn/statuses/116220434346636272Fri, 13 Mar 2026 06:24:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 04:58:40 GMT]]>@serigala_tropis @danirabbit they are vibe coding decades of technical debt into everything.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fedi.arkadi.one/users/tootbrute/statuses/01KKJRZ7VWVZ98PK02Z1EDDWVQhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fedi.arkadi.one/users/tootbrute/statuses/01KKJRZ7VWVZ98PK02Z1EDDWVQFri, 13 Mar 2026 04:58:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. on Fri, 13 Mar 2026 04:55:23 GMT]]>@danirabbit regret comes later, and it always comes when it is too late.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://lgbtqia.space/ap/users/115902842793908035/statuses/116220082500294503https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://lgbtqia.space/ap/users/115902842793908035/statuses/116220082500294503Fri, 13 Mar 2026 04:55:23 GMT