<![CDATA["If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective"]]>"If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective"

I am vegetarian *and* I am worried about datacenter impact on climate change

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And people correctly point out that individual action is not enough, but on the other hand, being veg*n only got easier because of *collective individual action*!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461324812146599https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461324812146599Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:26:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:25:32 GMT]]>@lanodan @janneke But at the same time, it used to be *so much harder* to be vegan!

Even being vegetarian was 20x harder when I switched to being so in 2009 than it is today

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461321120408791https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461321120408791Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:25:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:24:58 GMT]]>@cwebber some people are willing to let my not doing EVERYTHING stand in the way of their doing ANYTHING (besides comment online, of course).

Because commenting online on how people are trying to save the world the wrong way is what is going to save us in the end.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/stormygleason/statuses/116461318840410939https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/stormygleason/statuses/116461318840410939Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:24:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:24:13 GMT]]>@cwebber @janneke Reminds me that sometimes I feel like it's much easier to go vegan than go full free software, like for vegan stuff in my experience you can get your stuff at the local shops fine and problems are more when away from your familiar areas.
While full free software depends on more and more niche hardware and even then you're still making compromises.]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://queer.hacktivis.me/objects/e5f0f06c-2cf9-4321-8d6e-4756bd789773https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://queer.hacktivis.me/objects/e5f0f06c-2cf9-4321-8d6e-4756bd789773Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:24:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:21:11 GMT]]>@cwebber I was interested in the topic on building a protocol as activitypub that’s as sustainable as possible in every way, especially energy-wise. And if it would be possible to perfect it in this matter.

Unfortunately this topic was not well received and I've been blocked for just mentioning it because it made some people uncomfortable. I find it really saddening.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tooting.ch/users/aroom/statuses/116461303991679052https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tooting.ch/users/aroom/statuses/116461303991679052Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:21:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:17:52 GMT]]>@cwebber but also I do agree, all of the above, but we have to think big too

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/unlofl/statuses/116461290943826760https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/unlofl/statuses/116461290943826760Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:17:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:17:39 GMT]]>@cwebber I very much like high speed trains, the kind we've been promised for decades but assholes in government keep killing. 🔥

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/pawv/statuses/116461290124206628https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/pawv/statuses/116461290124206628Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:17:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:17:03 GMT]]>@cwebber but also, so tired of the crappy individualist approach! 51% of Americans going vegan won't save us, but 51% of Americans voting as a block could.

There was a plastic straw ban passed where I live, which I think was one of the dumbest "pretend to care" things possible. It pisses of conservatives, and is annoying, and everyone can complain about big government.

Actual change? Ban plastic beverage containers, cans and glass are fine, and the beer industry proves it can work.

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I would love to see a vegetarian world.

Much like I would love to see a mostly vegan world where half of the people would still eat honey and ride a horse from time to time.

I believe we'll get there eventually and have to focus on the path and on inspiring and acknowledging eachother.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://todon.nl/users/janneke/statuses/116461275412881743https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://todon.nl/users/janneke/statuses/116461275412881743Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:13:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:13:53 GMT]]>@cwebber im currently making my own 🙂 and i did design or coauthor Versia as federated network but too tired for that and back with just being a average AP user haha]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://donotsta.re/objects/fd9c035e-3b5f-414f-84bc-94332cb433bbhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://donotsta.re/objects/fd9c035e-3b5f-414f-84bc-94332cb433bbFri, 24 Apr 2026 19:13:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:13:17 GMT]]>@bean @cwebber ¿por que no los dos?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/Greg/statuses/116461272891694152https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/Greg/statuses/116461272891694152Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:13:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:12:58 GMT]]>@cwebber i'm a vegan

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116461271678794540https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116461271678794540Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:12:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:12:47 GMT]]>@april Now now I didn't design my own distro, I'm just a contributor to one

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461270942827321https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461270942827321Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:12:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:12:23 GMT]]>@pawv As much progress as we can from as many directions as we can! There's limits within peoples' individual lives, but we can make a lot of collective difference together!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461269386054039https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461269386054039Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:12:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:12:07 GMT]]>@cwebber "Well if youre so worried about big tech takingg over you should design your own Linux distro and design your own decentralised social media" /j]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://donotsta.re/objects/a6dfbedf-ae26-4bfc-a609-6a439547914ahttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://donotsta.re/objects/a6dfbedf-ae26-4bfc-a609-6a439547914aFri, 24 Apr 2026 19:12:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:11:06 GMT]]>@cwebber probably overspecific but I think non-highway driving is the first thing to try and eliminate cars for, short/mid-range with small load is what bikes are more naturally suited to and cars are often extremely stupid in that application

going several hundred miles on a bike is rather an undertaking, and trains can't go to the range of endpoints a car can]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ihatebeinga.live/objects/dfb194b2-94c4-40d4-ab8c-82198126a4fbhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ihatebeinga.live/objects/dfb194b2-94c4-40d4-ab8c-82198126a4fbFri, 24 Apr 2026 19:11:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:10:38 GMT]]>@janneke Pretty much I am the same way with vegetarianism / veganism as I am with free software

I still run my nonfree blobs to keep my computer running but if everyone were running hippie computers with FOSS, we could get rid of those much easier too

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461262509233967https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461262509233967Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:10:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:10:19 GMT]]>@cwebber the mode of transportation or the Porcupine Tree song?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://twoot.site/users/bean/statuses/116461261231531603https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://twoot.site/users/bean/statuses/116461261231531603Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:10:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:09:49 GMT]]>@janneke Veganism is def better than vegetarianism; I eat "largely vegan", but once you pull people along to vegetarianism, it's easier to move society to veganism

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461259289828931https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461259289828931Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:09:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:08:46 GMT]]>@cwebber
I am vegan and am worrying about how the dairy industry and the meat industry are tightly entangled and that because of that vegetarianism doesn't contribute to a reduction of animal suffering in a meaningful way (acknowledging that going vegetarian is an amazing step towards veganism, thank you vegetarians, and please keep walking the path!), and I'm worrying about the datacenter impact on climate change.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://todon.nl/users/janneke/statuses/116461255148406363https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://todon.nl/users/janneke/statuses/116461255148406363Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:08:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:07:30 GMT]]>I'm also a huge fan of trains

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461250195957842https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461250195957842Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:07:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:07:20 GMT]]>I'm the leftie queer who's saying yeah we should be worried about the environment as a multidisciplinary concern and try to tackle it from as many angles as we can, I'm sorry this is annoying, since I already agree with all your whataboutism directions and say "yes that too!"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461249508976381https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461249508976381Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:07:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:07:00 GMT]]>People do the same whataboutism about vegetarianism/veganism too FWIW

"Oh yeah? Well if you're advocating for vegatarianism, why not advocate for biking instead of driving cars, highways kill a lot of animals and cars emit so much CO2"

Buddy I got news for you I do that too

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461248189287090https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.coop/users/cwebber/statuses/116461248189287090Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:07:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "If you're so worried about datacenter impact on climate change you should go vegetarian, that would be more effective" on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 19:03:05 GMT]]>@cwebber "go billionairian" 🤔🤡

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