<![CDATA[Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess.]]>Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. Le sigh.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/1c213ca6-36c9-444e-bb2e-94e7327e2f23/some-folks-at-microsoft-and-google-and-maybe-even-the-new-eurooffice-people-are-very-happy-about-all-the-infighting-in-the-libreoffice-tdf-collabora-community-i-guess.RSS for NodeMon, 06 Apr 2026 12:11:12 GMTSun, 05 Apr 2026 12:46:29 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:48:51 GMT]]>@jwildeboer This is... not good. I have an item to evaluate Collabora soon.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116352413300412702https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116352413300412702Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:48:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:35:18 GMT]]>@Sweetshark I always cared more about the ODF as a standard and less about the implementations. ODF being implemented in many places and in interoperable ways is what I always hoped for. And that can and should still be done.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wildeboer.net/users/jwildeboer/statuses/116352360028865781https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wildeboer.net/users/jwildeboer/statuses/116352360028865781Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:35:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:32:42 GMT]]>@jwildeboer
I agree - also on the point that there is ego and ... difficult personalities on both sides. But there is also a structual issue beyond the egos that goes back longer than LibreOffice itself: the problematic understanding of as "free as in beer" and of LibreOffice as a product and not as a project/community. The latter would have broken this at some point even without toxic personalities.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.tchncs.de/ap/users/116082355106939231/statuses/116352349795406471https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.tchncs.de/ap/users/116082355106939231/statuses/116352349795406471Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:32:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:20:29 GMT]]>@Sweetshark That's your opinion that I absolutely respect. It's not my opinion, though. It's destructive infighting, fuelled not just by one side. There is also a lot of ego involved and this escalation was ultimately unavoidable, mostly due to that. That's my opinion, that I hope you also respect.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wildeboer.net/users/jwildeboer/statuses/116352301769521408https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wildeboer.net/users/jwildeboer/statuses/116352301769521408Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:20:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:18:19 GMT]]>@KitsuneofInari And I would suggest adding the other side too: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/04/05/lets-put-an-end-to-the-speculation/ and https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/04/01/comment-about-collabora-blog-post/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wildeboer.net/users/jwildeboer/statuses/116352293250688731https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wildeboer.net/users/jwildeboer/statuses/116352293250688731Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:18:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:17:55 GMT]]>@jwildeboer
The original sin was the public perception that TDF was controlling the development of . It never was and as a German NGO mostly cannot even do that in the way its users expect. The deadly follow up mistake was trying to directly hire devs: it doesnt scale and the foundation has no competent leadership to direct them anyway.

Instead TDF should have invested in diversifing LibreOffice dev contributor base with volunteers or other parties to replace the diversity once SuSE/RedHat/Canonical disinvested and the core devs were more and more monopolized. It failed to do so out of foolish anti "developer" sentiment.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.tchncs.de/ap/users/116082355106939231/statuses/116352291648859016https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.tchncs.de/ap/users/116082355106939231/statuses/116352291648859016Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:17:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:16:28 GMT]]>@jwildeboer I would suggest checking out this article on the situation. This whole infighting seems to be a problem of TDF’s own making.

https://forum.linuxguides.de/core/index.php?article/54-libreoffice-am-abgrund-wie-die-document-foundation-ihre-eigenen-gr%C3%BCnder-vor-die/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sakura-star.net/users/KitsuneofInari/statuses/116352285985517659https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sakura-star.net/users/KitsuneofInari/statuses/116352285985517659Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:16:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:07:04 GMT]]>@jwildeboer

What's going on with the people behind LibreOffice etc?

I haven't kept up enough since it forked from Sun's OpenOffice after Oracle bought Sun.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sfba.social/users/johnlogic/statuses/116352248986495289https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sfba.social/users/johnlogic/statuses/116352248986495289Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:07:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:06:24 GMT]]>@jwildeboer I wish they stopped the infighting. They‘re not enemies. Last time I checked there was this … other office suite, 3-something or so, currently being enslopified … if you have energy to fight, fight that!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.world/users/ujay68/statuses/116352246403540395https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.world/users/ujay68/statuses/116352246403540395Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:06:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 12:58:24 GMT]]>@jwildeboer

Humans are humans everywhere. Nevertheless up to now the better solution prevailed over time. As the alternative would mean we could not talk today.
Gives me hope.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/_RyekDarkener_/statuses/116352214903426165https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/_RyekDarkener_/statuses/116352214903426165Sun, 05 Apr 2026 12:58:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 12:53:13 GMT]]>Now I have my own (long) history with the document foundation and I am 100% sure that they are on the right side. But based on the info I have, they felt like they were forced to do what they did. This whole escalation comes at the worst possible time. But nothing I can do. In my personal opinion, the Open Document Format and its ecosystem is THE chance for , not only for Europe.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wildeboer.net/users/jwildeboer/statuses/116352194565890244https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wildeboer.net/users/jwildeboer/statuses/116352194565890244Sun, 05 Apr 2026 12:53:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Some folks at Microsoft and Google (and maybe even the new EuroOffice people) are very happy about all the infighting in the LibreOffice/TDF/Collabora community, I guess. on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 12:52:29 GMT]]>@jwildeboer … nobody is fightng over LyX ? LaTeX is still my favourite markup lingua franca.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/sparky57/statuses/116352191669642428https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/sparky57/statuses/116352191669642428Sun, 05 Apr 2026 12:52:29 GMT