<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot;]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of "we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn't support that." The actual phrase was:</p><blockquote><p>The research employed a methodology that prioritized stakeholder voice over researcher interpretation.</p></blockquote><p>I wonder if a data scientist slipped that in to make it clear to other folks how this happened. You don't have to write stuff like this if the boss wants to do what the research says is a good idea. You only have to write this if the research says one thing and the boss says another.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/16ec177b-1c53-4183-a527-9a65bce6e0b5/i-just-saw-the-most-amazingly-corporate-expression-of-we-did-what-the-bosses-wanted-us-to-do-even-though-the-research-didn-t-support-that.</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 01:56:59 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/16ec177b-1c53-4183-a527-9a65bce6e0b5.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 13:16:22 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Sat, 25 Apr 2026 09:24:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/agreeable_landfall%40mastodon.social">@<span>agreeable_landfall</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> I remember one former customer regularly published somewhat pompous “research has shown” type articles. </p><p>The research in question being a poll on the website that would get maybe 150 responses sometimes but usually fewer. </p><p>I knew this because I wrote that poll system.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Tubemeister/statuses/116464618664360331</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Tubemeister/statuses/116464618664360331</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tubemeister@mstdn.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 09:24:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Sat, 25 Apr 2026 09:13:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> "all I got is a red guitar / 3 chords / and the truth" -- all along the watchtower</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116464577151836107</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116464577151836107</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bms48@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 09:13:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Sat, 25 Apr 2026 09:09:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> i see way too many arXiv papers where there's a step they run the data through a chatbot, and quite often I suspect "stakeholder voice" is the reason</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/davidgerard/statuses/116464559511244606</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/davidgerard/statuses/116464559511244606</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[davidgerard@circumstances.run]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 09:09:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Sat, 25 Apr 2026 00:15:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> The customer is always rAIght, huh</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/Soozcat/statuses/116462463071055224</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/Soozcat/statuses/116462463071055224</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[soozcat@vmst.io]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 00:15:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Sat, 25 Apr 2026 00:14:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/atleagle%40mastodon.online">@<span>ATLeagle</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/jeffgrigg%40mastodon.social">@<span>JeffGrigg</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/wordshaper%40weatherishappening.network">@<span>wordshaper</span></a></span> Especially businessy businessman upon that day.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/Soozcat/statuses/116462456803794585</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/Soozcat/statuses/116462456803794585</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[soozcat@vmst.io]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 00:14:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 14:15:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> "You did the thing, and it was good, but it wasn't good enough. Next time, backstroke."</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/prism/statuses/116460101290726223</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/prism/statuses/116460101290726223</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[prism@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 14:15:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 10:14:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/prism%40infosec.exchange">@<span>prism</span></a></span> Wow. “It’s not clear why we should keep this thing. All it does is make money for us.”</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/paco/statuses/116459154791993798</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/paco/statuses/116459154791993798</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[paco@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 10:14:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 09:53:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> not surprising in the slightest.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ayba/statuses/116459072537345314</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ayba/statuses/116459072537345314</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ayba@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 09:53:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 07:32:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> Well, that's much easier then.  Back when I was a lad, companies had to hire researchers to do studies with very small sample sizes.  Once they got a result they liked, they plastered it all over their advertising.</p><p>Of course, back then lawyers and drug companies were forbidden to advertise.  Congress felt that might tend to flood the courts with worthless lawsuits, or encourage people to take meds they didn't need.  Silly Congress.  <img src="https://board.circlewithadot.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=28325c671da" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=";)" alt="😉" /></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/agreeable_landfall/statuses/116458517914636477</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/agreeable_landfall/statuses/116458517914636477</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[agreeable_landfall@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 07:32:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 04:05:18 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> Reminds me of a line from a doc an engineering manager wrote, explaining why we needed to kill off a popular project that everyone liked because it wasn't making enough money:<br />"Despite good year-over-year performance, the value proposition remains unclear, beyond topline contributions."</p><p>Craziest thing I ever read.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/prism/statuses/116457702565861625</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/prism/statuses/116457702565861625</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[prism@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 04:05:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 03:57:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> <img src="https://board.circlewithadot.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f469-200d-1f373.png?v=28325c671da" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--female-cook" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="👩‍🍳" alt="👩‍🍳" /><img src="https://board.circlewithadot.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f48b.png?v=28325c671da" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--kiss" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="💋" alt="💋" /> no notes</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/itgrrl/statuses/116457671704856517</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/itgrrl/statuses/116457671704856517</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itgrrl@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 03:57:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 23:55:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/jeffgrigg%40mastodon.social">@<span>JeffGrigg</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/wordshaper%40weatherishappening.network">@<span>wordshaper</span></a></span> the boss is probably happy and feeling powerful. Lol</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/ATLeagle/statuses/116456720897368181</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/ATLeagle/statuses/116456720897368181</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[atleagle@mastodon.online]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 23:55:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 23:18:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> *wincing* yeah, very different context, yikes!!</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mathstodon.xyz/users/emjonaitis/statuses/116456576292604085</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mathstodon.xyz/users/emjonaitis/statuses/116456576292604085</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[emjonaitis@mathstodon.xyz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 23:18:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 23:14:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/emjonaitis%40mathstodon.xyz" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>emjonaitis</span></a></span> it was an internal web page describing an internal initiative carried out by some company data scientists. It was not “research” in an academic sense.</p><p>The context suggests that the “stakeholders” were leaders pushing to incorporate GenAI into a business process. They had the internal researchers analyse results or data in that process and it looks like the researchers produced results that didn’t support doing that.</p><p>I really shouldn’t be more specific. There is ample room for me to be a bit wrong. But “stakeholder” in this case was definitely not a community member or underrepresented person.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/paco/statuses/116456559470830693</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/paco/statuses/116456559470830693</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[paco@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 23:14:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 23:07:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> How sure are you that “stakeholder” means “boss” here? In my research world, “stakeholder” often means “community member” where “community” is some underrepresented group or other and the work is participatory, i.e. not fully scientist-led. Obviously you read this paper and I didn’t, of course…</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mathstodon.xyz/users/emjonaitis/statuses/116456529683882319</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mathstodon.xyz/users/emjonaitis/statuses/116456529683882319</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[emjonaitis@mathstodon.xyz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 23:07:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 22:38:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/wordshaper%40weatherishappening.network">@<span>wordshaper</span></a></span> </p><p>I think that the researcher writing that line knew full well that even if their boss read that, they would not understand it.</p><p><img src="https://board.circlewithadot.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f644.png?v=28325c671da" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--face_with_rolling_eyes" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🙄" alt="🙄" /></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JeffGrigg/statuses/116456416035257004</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JeffGrigg/statuses/116456416035257004</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jeffgrigg@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 22:38:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 22:36:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> just for giggles I am going to a Google search for weekly results.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/bipedalprog/statuses/116456409178598900</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/bipedalprog/statuses/116456409178598900</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bipedalprog@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 22:36:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 21:00:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> </p><p>In other words, the company made up shit to please its know-nothing shareholders, and ignored facts its own researchers discovered that disagree with it.</p><p>It's as if Trump's persona were metastasizing across the corporatesphere.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/huntingdon/statuses/116456031766977912</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/huntingdon/statuses/116456031766977912</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[huntingdon@mstdn.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 21:00:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 20:12:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/wordshaper%40weatherishappening.network" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>wordshaper</span></a></span> That’s most of us. It’s also funny because we know the bosses don’t read anything this detailed. It sailed right past them.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/paco/statuses/116455841527097349</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/paco/statuses/116455841527097349</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[paco@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 20:12:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 19:45:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> Ouch, that's low-key vicious and pretty clearly someone was *furious* about the whole thing but didn't have sufficient leverage to do anything about it.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://weatherishappening.network/users/wordshaper/statuses/116455735602854372</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://weatherishappening.network/users/wordshaper/statuses/116455735602854372</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[wordshaper@weatherishappening.network]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 19:45:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 19:24:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener">@<span>paco</span></a></span> wow no kidding</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://adhd.irenes.space/users/ireneista/statuses/01KPXWTS6RY1ZAV4FDR71H0MBE</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://adhd.irenes.space/users/ireneista/statuses/01KPXWTS6RY1ZAV4FDR71H0MBE</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ireneista@adhd.irenes.space]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 19:24:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 16:51:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> </p><p>They "employed a methodology" that was not the 'scientific method' or even 'due diligence'. </p><p>The method was 'wishful thinking'.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hear-me.social/users/Ralph/statuses/116455051861094327</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hear-me.social/users/Ralph/statuses/116455051861094327</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ralph@hear-me.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 16:51:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to I just saw the most amazingly corporate expression of &quot;we did what the bosses wanted us to do, even though the research didn&#x27;t support that.&quot; on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 13:26:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/paco%40infosec.exchange">@<span>paco</span></a></span> Sounds like how to vet political candidates for ambassador ...</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/users/TimWardCam/statuses/116454248410309825</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/users/TimWardCam/statuses/116454248410309825</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[timwardcam@c.im]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 13:26:51 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>