<![CDATA[The complex environment of benefits involves all sorts of perverse incentives, but here's one that is both stark &amp; (up until now seemingly) under-recognised:]]>The complex environment of benefits involves all sorts of perverse incentives, but here's one that is both stark & (up until now seemingly) under-recognised:

for 16-17 year olds living at home, an apprenticeship (which is part of Govt. attempts to get young people into work or training) results in their families losing a chunk of benefits as they become 'independent workers' not children for benefits purposes.... disincentivizing them from training!

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‘Apprenticeship penalty’ on benefits forces young people from poorer UK families to quit

Government advisers call for review of rules that cause loss of household income when a child takes up job training

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the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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That is including the benefits agencies themselves.

This sort of thing also happens in Norway too. One benefit to a specific group gets raised above a certain threshold as a result of the new national budget.

This results in other benefits being reduced leaving vulnerable people worse off.

UBI could remove most of these examples of unintended claw-backs.

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yes, lack thereof....

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