<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw.]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p class="quote-inline">RE: <a href="https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/116408720976324749" rel="nofollow noopener"><span>https://</span><span>ec.social-network.europa.eu/@E</span><span>UCommission/116408720976324749</span></a></p><p>Doesn't work without a Google/Apple-tied device btw. There is absolutely no story for how this would work on a desktop, anything without a Google/Apple account, or open source OS at all either.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/00a15891-7c94-444c-a953-955c54de4178/doesn-t-work-without-a-google-apple-tied-device-btw.</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 17:37:18 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/00a15891-7c94-444c-a953-955c54de4178.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 06:45:30 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 13:54:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/dukeboitans%40mas.to">@<span>dukeboitans</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/soulsource%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>soulsource</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> The "you can easily lose your Google account" part is something I think shouldn't be ignored - in this context it's more or less equivalent to the government taking away your ID  and never giving you an alternative document.  Except it's out of control for both you and your government and even out of our jurisdiction because it's an American lobbyist corporation.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/phl/statuses/116420382854769686</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/phl/statuses/116420382854769686</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phl@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 13:54:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:59:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/timothyroes%40mastodon.social">@<span>TimothyRoes</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/soulsource%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>soulsource</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/khleedril%40cyberplace.social">@<span>khleedril</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/k4mpfie%40mastodon.social">@<span>K4mpfie</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> <br />Apparently, the standard Android hardware attestation API can attest more than just the hardware. From <a href="https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide" rel="nofollow noopener"><span>https://</span><span>grapheneos.org/articles/attest</span><span>ation-compatibility-guide</span></a>:</p><p>"The standard hardware attestation API can be used to verify the authenticity/integrity of the hardware, firmware, OS and the app running on it. It provides a verified boot key fingerprint for the OS for permitting secure aftermarket operating systems. The app ID, signing key fingerprint(s) and version code of the app enabling hardware attestation are included in the signed public key certificate for the generated key. This enables the app's service to make sure the app is genuine and unmodified along with chaining trust through the OS to the app which can sign messages with the attested hardware keystore key to prove they come from their app running on top of a verified OS, firmware and hardware. The only practical way to bypass hardware attestation is through exploiting the hardware keystore to obtain attestation signing keys, which is protected against by the ability to revoke keys that are being misused. "</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://johnmastodon.eu/ap/users/115799080678448178/statuses/116420165828100856</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://johnmastodon.eu/ap/users/115799080678448178/statuses/116420165828100856</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rainer@johnmastodon.eu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:59:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:48:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> </p><p>I don't support the age verification stuff at all.</p><p> But a question: </p><p>I found this apk-file on their official GitHub, a demo version of the age verification app.</p><p> Does this mean the official app, when it's released and if it's released as apk-file, can be downloaded outside the google/apple ecosystem using any phoneOS of your choice? </p><p>AOSP-based or Linux distros using the Waydroid-thingy? </p><p>And if they can publish the demo version as apk, why not then the e-wallet, when it comes, too? Using various places for apk:s is how I update certain apps today using Obtainium.</p><p>(This is an honest question, not a *statement* of how the app can be downloaded.)</p><p>"app-demo-release.2026.04-1.apk"</p><p><a href="https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui/releases/tag/2026.04-1" rel="nofollow noopener"><span>https://</span><span>github.com/eu-digital-identity</span><span>-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui/releases/tag/2026.04-1</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.cat/users/jon_bon/statuses/116420124741205772</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.cat/users/jon_bon/statuses/116420124741205772</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jon_bon@toot.cat]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:48:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:47:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/soulsource%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>soulsource</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/khleedril%40cyberplace.social">@<span>khleedril</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/k4mpfie%40mastodon.social">@<span>K4mpfie</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> Great point thx. I gather from the Github <span><a href="/user/rainer%40johnmastodon.eu">@<span>rainer</span></a></span> linked to that the idea currently is basically proof of the physical device the software is installed on, although Google also checks whether the app is installed from the Play Store and the user is logged in.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115915956696054116/statuses/116420119077059725</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115915956696054116/statuses/116420119077059725</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[timothyroes@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:47:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:44:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/soulsource%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>soulsource</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> La misma Europa que dice estar muy preocupada por la infancia es cómplice del exterminio de decenas de miles de niños en Gaza. La infancia no les importa nada, se trata de identificar a cada persona que use internet (control de edad), y saber todo lo que dicen y piensan (chatcontrol) para poder perseguir en el futuro a toda disidencia. Ya se persigue en muchos países de la UE a quienes denuncian el genocidio y se tilda de terrorista a ecologistas</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/SecoasecasMouse/statuses/116420107373066567</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/SecoasecasMouse/statuses/116420107373066567</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[secoasecasmouse@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:44:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:44:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/timothyroes%40mastodon.social">@<span>TimothyRoes</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/rainer%40johnmastodon.eu">@<span>rainer</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/khleedril%40cyberplace.social">@<span>khleedril</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/k4mpfie%40mastodon.social">@<span>K4mpfie</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> There is also the option to lower usability instead of security. For instance by allowing key-storage on a dedicated device, like a FIDO token or a smartcard.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/soulsource/statuses/116420107069271094</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/soulsource/statuses/116420107069271094</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.place]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:44:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:40:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/rainer%40johnmastodon.eu">@<span>rainer</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/soulsource%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>soulsource</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/khleedril%40cyberplace.social">@<span>khleedril</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/k4mpfie%40mastodon.social">@<span>K4mpfie</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> Yes, and correct me if I'm wrong but for an identity app that gives access to banks, taxes etc it's not unreasonable for a govt to prioritize security. You also cant work with opt-outs for powerusers because your counterparty has to be able to trust your proof of identity. <br />But given the anti-competitive effects maybe a neutral third party could be created?</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115915956696054116/statuses/116420093677704263</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115915956696054116/statuses/116420093677704263</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[timothyroes@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:40:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:25:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> That post is also very funny. I agree with the first two sentences but then come to the exact opposite conclusion 🫠</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.cat/users/slomo/statuses/116420034342935316</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.cat/users/slomo/statuses/116420034342935316</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[slomo@toot.cat]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:25:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:25:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> A la unión Europea no le importa la seguridad de la infancia. Solo es una excusa<br /><a href="https://mastodon.social/@SecoasecasMouse/116419991571625677" rel="nofollow noopener"><span>https://</span><span>mastodon.social/@SecoasecasMou</span><span>se/116419991571625677</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/SecoasecasMouse/statuses/116420034279386711</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/SecoasecasMouse/statuses/116420034279386711</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[secoasecasmouse@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:25:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:14:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/soulsource%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>soulsource</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/timothyroes%40mastodon.social">@<span>TimothyRoes</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/khleedril%40cyberplace.social">@<span>khleedril</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/k4mpfie%40mastodon.social">@<span>K4mpfie</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> </p><p>This hardware attestation is Android-specific, but at least not tied to Google. That fixes a major problem for a major platform. One still needs a solution for serving the rest of the market in a similarly acceptable way, of course.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://johnmastodon.eu/ap/users/115799080678448178/statuses/116419990155995007</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://johnmastodon.eu/ap/users/115799080678448178/statuses/116419990155995007</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rainer@johnmastodon.eu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:14:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:12:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/luboganev%40androiddev.social">@<span>luboganev</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> If I understand correctly (big if <img src="https://board.circlewithadot.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f60a.png?v=28325c671da" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--blush" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="😊" alt="😊" />), there is no strict requirement to use Play Integrity API (which excludes even GrapheneOS), but has been interpreted as such by some national implementations:<br /><a href="https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287#issuecomment-3008971704" rel="nofollow noopener"><span>https://</span><span>github.com/eu-digital-identity</span><span>-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287#issuecomment-3008971704</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jeronim/statuses/116419981169607010</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jeronim/statuses/116419981169607010</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jeronim@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:12:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:10:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/dukeboitans%40mas.to">@<span>dukeboitans</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> Thinking about it: The press statement mentions that desktop platforms will be supported.</p><p>So, if we take that seriously, and considering that this is just the start, then I guess we can later expect a desktop application, or even a website, that does exactly that: Trade usability for portability.</p><p>Similarly to how the ID Austria is handled: You can either use the Android/iOS app (easy to use, non-portable), or use a FIDO token (portable, but worse usability).</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/soulsource/statuses/116419972774033572</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/soulsource/statuses/116419972774033572</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.place]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:10:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:00:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/dukeboitans%40mas.to">@<span>dukeboitans</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> Indeed. The trade-off would be to either have lower security (impersonation risk) or worse usability (e.g. 2-factor authentication).</p><p>Since age verification is going to be a gate-keeper that will lock out everyone who does not have access to a verification tool from large parts of the internet, I think it is at least worth considering the "worse usability" option as an alternative for users who do not have access to an Android/iOS phone with Device Attestation.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/soulsource/statuses/116419936207739573</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/soulsource/statuses/116419936207739573</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.place]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:00:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:52:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/rainer%40johnmastodon.eu">@<span>rainer</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/timothyroes%40mastodon.social">@<span>TimothyRoes</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/khleedril%40cyberplace.social">@<span>khleedril</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/k4mpfie%40mastodon.social">@<span>K4mpfie</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> </p><p>Which also is system-specific and therefore not portable.</p><p>What we are dealing with is a trade-off between usability, security and portability. The current approach emphasises the first two strongly over the third.</p><p>Since this is a gate-keeper app, where everyone who does not have access will also not have access to certain websites, I think a higher priority should be given to portability, even if it lowers usability or security.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/soulsource/statuses/116419903408659588</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/soulsource/statuses/116419903408659588</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.place]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:52:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:46:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> Our governments will not be satisfied until we're all treated like caged animals. Incredibly disappointing.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116213636521702584/statuses/116419880515069498</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116213636521702584/statuses/116419880515069498</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[archivescribe@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:46:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:45:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> the article linked says "the app works on any device – phone, tablet, computer, you name it". Do you have evidence that this isn’t true?</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Crocmagnon/statuses/116419874423242834</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Crocmagnon/statuses/116419874423242834</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[crocmagnon@fosstodon.org]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:45:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:40:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> Product idea: a usb+nfc token (like Yubikey or other security keys), that runs Android in it to log in on banks and social medias from other platforms.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Valentin/statuses/116419856105005054</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Valentin/statuses/116419856105005054</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[valentin@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:40:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:32:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/timothyroes%40mastodon.social">@<span>TimothyRoes</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/khleedril%40cyberplace.social">@<span>khleedril</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/k4mpfie%40mastodon.social">@<span>K4mpfie</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/soulsource%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>soulsource</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> I guess an alternative is described here: <a href="https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/390" rel="nofollow noopener"><span>https://</span><span>github.com/eu-digital-identity</span><span>-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/390</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://johnmastodon.eu/ap/users/115799080678448178/statuses/116419823661690191</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://johnmastodon.eu/ap/users/115799080678448178/statuses/116419823661690191</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rainer@johnmastodon.eu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:32:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:11:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> EU fails again in being European, tying again European citizens to an US duopoly.<br />Another loud epic failure.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/ap/users/116092650648397225/statuses/116419744153563960</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/ap/users/116092650648397225/statuses/116419744153563960</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:11:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:06:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/dukeboitans%40mas.to">@<span>dukeboitans</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/soulsource%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>soulsource</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> ...sadly the current hardware of smartphones offers security features that are only available on Apple and Google platforms I understood (bad in itself I agree)</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ErikJonker/statuses/116419722349184307</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ErikJonker/statuses/116419722349184307</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[erikjonker@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:06:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:59:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/timothyroes%40mastodon.social">@<span>TimothyRoes</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/jolla%40techhub.social">@<span>jolla</span></a></span> </p><p></p><div class="card col-md-9 col-lg-6 position-relative link-preview p-0">

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</div><p></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hear-me.social/users/Lacze/statuses/116419696845902847</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hear-me.social/users/Lacze/statuses/116419696845902847</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[lacze@hear-me.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:59:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:59:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/erikjonker%40mastodon.social">@<span>ErikJonker</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/soulsource%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>soulsource</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> We need portable software, a concept even older than me. This application could have been engineered to be portable from the start, instead they cheaped out, with hard requirements like having a Google/Apple smartphone. This is unacceptable.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/dukeboitans/statuses/116419695377260208</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/dukeboitans/statuses/116419695377260208</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dukeboitans@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:59:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:53:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/dukeboitans%40mas.to">@<span>dukeboitans</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/soulsource%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>soulsource</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> ...I wish you lots of fun with all those people on mobile phones that are not using the Google or Apple platform there, it is an incredibly small niche. We can argue about the functionality, whether it is needed, useful but not any app that you can use on current smartphones in the Apple/Google ecosystem is inherently bad/garbage. Ofcourse you can be against age verification as such, there are arguments against that I agree, but many Parliaments want it.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ErikJonker/statuses/116419672563924922</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ErikJonker/statuses/116419672563924922</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[erikjonker@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:53:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Doesn&#x27;t work without a Google&#x2F;Apple-tied device btw. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:49:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/pojntfx%40mastodon.social">@<span>pojntfx</span></a></span> This app is a joke, not speaking about the vulnerabilities it got as someone mentioned earlier</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/d4v/statuses/116419657101943409</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/d4v/statuses/116419657101943409</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[d4v@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:49:50 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>